Patrick's sleep system (Geezer Pleezer)

[Tim in Nevada]

Is the blue foam mat under the B/A insulated air core matress just one of the cheap, generic, Wally World blue pads, or a specific kind?

[Patrick]

Tim--

I bought it from REI. I don't know anything about the Walmart variety. Say, you're not a geezer...yet!

[Smokepole]

Patrick:

For us new guys, could you please explain your system? I did a search for "geezer" but could not find it.

[Patrick]

Smokepole--

It's mostly about the padding for my geezer body. It's been a "system" for a long time because I relied on pads (plural) to provide enough comfort, whilst being lightweight.

In truth, the Big Agnes pad I now use is comfortable enough all by itself. Tim is referring to the Blu Foam pad I use beneath the BA in below-15* conditions to give it ( the Big Agnes) extra warmth, not padding comfort. Got it?

[Rusty Hook]

Smokepole, if I rember right, Patrick uses a blue foam pad under a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core Pad. The interior insulation is suposed to take you down into the teens. The pads are two and a half inches thick, very good for older bones on hard rocky ground...Rusty.

[Kevin B]

Big agnes air cores rock. I got chilly when using a certain infamous yet effective piece of equipment over one. I'm adding the closed cell foam zrest or other mat for ground insulation this year. I figure the temps were in the 20's that night. I do sleep colder than all my hunt pards though so, there's a fudge factor there.

[CCH]

Having witnessed Patrick inflate the BA, you might want to refer to it as the "Geezer Wheezer". [img]/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Sorry Patrick, couldn't resist.

[Chris57]

I adopted the BA with a ridgerest underneath after hearing about Patricks system. I use the ridgerest all the time, just for protection of the BA pad.

The BA pad seems pretty thin skinned (but super comfortable).

Patrick, do you use the BA pad directly on the ground?

[Bonasus]

I used my BA insulated aircore on bare ground recently in my first wilderness test of my 6-man tipi (well, wilderness such as it is here in the East.) In about 4 nights of use on bare ground, I have not yet seen signs of damage.

[Dean]

I used my BA for 10 days in the coast mountains of BC this past year. Slept on rock, grass , brush all on the bare bottom and have had similar results ( no visible wear ) . My NE outings don't even count IMHO. One thing that bugs me about it is is on uneven ground it is hard to keep from sliding off it, anyone else having this problem ? Any ideas on how we can make it non-skid? Those hill are steep in BC. [img]/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]