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    Default Paypal scam....sellers beware

    I received notice of a Paypal scam, and thought it best to notify the board of how it works.

    Seller sells the item and receives payment via Paypal from buyer. Seller ships item. Buyer claims never to have received the item but the item is in fact delivered, but buyer delays receiving it until after the Paypal seller protection shipping requirement deadline expires. The sale is thus not consummated by Paypal rules. So, Paypal sides with the buyer, refunding their money. Buyer gets goods for free. Since you're dealing across state lines, lawsuits are expensive.

    Sound practice is to require a USPS money order on transactions unless the seller is someone with a good history or someone you know first hand. USPS money orders are hard to forge, and if one tries, the feds get very serious.

    I hope that we never have a problem like that here, but the report I received gives me some concern. Since the story I have is not verified, let me just suggest that you should be very careful about taking paypal from someone you do not know and trust.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    Thats nice.
    Requiring the money be gifted should solve this problem,prevents the buyer from being able to do anything if they're scammed though.
    I already wanted to use money orders anyway but now i REALLY do

    It might be a good idea to sticky this thread too.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    Gifting offers no buyer protection if the deal isnt consummated. Unless you have done lots of deals with a person and trust them then Id stay away from Gift. I give the option for it just because Im well known and lots of deals. Keeping your tracking # info and contacting post office can probably counter the scam as the PO can then vouch they have said item and have made attempts to deliver.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    Quote Originally Posted by darksouls View Post
    Thats nice.
    Requiring the money be gifted should solve this problem,prevents the buyer from being able to do anything if they're scammed though.
    I already wanted to use money orders anyway but now i REALLY do

    It might be a good idea to sticky this thread too.
    It would but it looks like Paypal has eliminated the "GIFT" option.
    You have a choice, You can throw in the towel or use it to wipe the sweat off your face.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    1st clue. Even when making that request these users still pay using the normal method in hopes of it getting through.
    2nd clue. Name on the paypal transaction is from a suspect country and is not US verified.
    3rd clue. Buyers delays shipping for 7 days or more. This disqualifies you for seller protection.

    I can assure you they are active members of this forum posting in our classified adds.

    If your guts tells you somethings fishy it prolly is.
    You have a choice, You can throw in the towel or use it to wipe the sweat off your face.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis C View Post
    1st clue. Even when making that request these users still pay using the normal method in hopes of it getting through.
    2nd clue. Name on the paypal transaction is from a suspect country and is not US verified.
    3rd clue. Buyers delays shipping for 7 days or more. This disqualifies you for seller protection.

    I can assure you they are active members of this forum posting in our classified adds.

    If your guts tells you somethings fishy it prolly is.
    Curtis and Kevin if this has happened we need to out them. Save us the hassle. Announce the names ban the IPs and we can all live in peace again.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis C View Post
    It would but it looks like Paypal has eliminated the "GIFT" option.

    I received a $2,500 paypal gift payment yesterday for a sale I made on another forum. I believe the buyer has to have a "verified" checking account linked to his paypal to utilize the gift payment...

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    I just shipped an item and saw this on PayPal's site just before I shipped. It was under seller protection.

    Protection for items not received
    When you ship to the address on this page and provide proof that the item was delivered and signed for, you're protected against claims for items not received. For complete requirements, see terms.


    If you put the tracking number in the paypal transaction it will email the buyer the tracking number. I sent this item insured for $1000 and required an adult signature. I'm not sure what else someone can do to protect themselves.

    Even though my transaction said it was eligible for seller protection, further down in the terms it states that non-eBay items are not covered.
    Last edited by parshal; 03-06-2015 at 10:57 AM.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    FYI shipping through usps and insuring it for anything over 200$ requires a signature. They wont deliver it without a signature.

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    Default Re: Paypal scam....sellers beware

    Another significant part of the "terms" is that it be shipped within 7 days. These folks running this scam are using that shipping time requirement to get a full refund as that wont provide shipping info until 7 days or more from payment date. In my case shipping was delayed 7 days by leading me to think he was going to buy additional items I had listed.
    You have a choice, You can throw in the towel or use it to wipe the sweat off your face.

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