View Full Version : .460 Smith & Wesson?
02-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Anybody shot the new S&W .460? My son is about ready to buy one for big game (elk, deer, black bear) - it has some advantages; shoots .45 long colt, .460 S&W and .454 Casull. Although it's a big, heavy wheeler, I keep telling him its gotta hurt to shoot it - my Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger puts out 1100 FP with my handloaded wih 410 gr. slugs, and delievrs plenty enough recoil for me. The .460 puts out 2400 FP's, and is supposed to be good to 200 yards. I'm trying to tell him he doesn't need all that gun, and that 200 yards is a long way to shoot with a handgun, even if scoped. How dead do you have to kill something? Any opinions on this hogleg?
02-17-2006, 05:16 AM
i read about that new gun. it seems like a pretty impressive piece. i don't feel like lugging that thing around all day for a side arm. and i doubt i could handle all that gun. my s&w 629 in 44mag. is plenty for me. and i can find ammo for it anywhere. but if he gets one let us know how it performs. the versitility of the cartriges you can use is appealing. but not the $1100 price tag.
02-17-2006, 06:28 AM
You're off a bit. The guys at Smith showed me one at the SHOT show, and told me they were getting better than 2700 FPS with a 200 grain bullet.
02-17-2006, 09:29 AM
Beyond collecting grouse for the pot, I am not a handgun hunter and do not have the experience of many here. Still, I do not see the point in the .460. A revolver in all but the hands of a few, is not a weapon for use much beyond 75 yards. Even that would be a stretch for me and most others.
Touting a cartridge as just the ticket for longer range big game hunting, whether is is for use in a rifle or a handgun, is a recipe for the wounding, loss and waste of game animals which deserve better.
My money would go with the man that carries a well used .270 into the woods rather than the owner of a buffed up 338-378. The former probably knows what he is doing.
02-17-2006, 06:51 PM
Kevin: No matter who you talk to, it's too much gun IMHO. Hornady lists the .460 200 gr SST cartidge at 2200 FPS and 2149 ft-lbs at the muzzle. The Hornady .454 Casull is 1900 and 1923 respectively with the 240 gr. XTP slug. Cor-bon loads the .460 up to 395 Gr. at 1525 & 2040. My .480 is tame by comparison at 1100 and 1100 respectively with handloads, 410 gr. Cast Performence LBT WFNGC.
Jim: The wounding issue is an angle I hadn't thought of. Thanks.
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03-06-2006, 08:11 PM
Well, here's an update for those interested.
Talked to my son last night over the phone, and he bought the .460. As a box of .460 shells for this hummer will set you back $50, he decided to try shooting the .454 Casull through it first. After touching off the first round, he said to himself, "Oh my gosh!" But he persisted and ran 3 cylinders worth throught this pistola.
He says that the recoil is "very stiff;" so much so that he may return the revolver and get something else. He's no stranger to recoil, but after the Casull he says he can only imagine what the .460 magnum rounds must be like. He tells me that the recoil is so stiff quick follow-up shots would be very difficult. You really got to pull this one back down out of the sky after touching it off.
03-06-2006, 08:31 PM
MontanaMike, no disagreement.
If I need that much oomph, it's going to be in a rifle. The darned handgun weighs almost as much as some rifles anyway, at least the kind of stuff that's popular here.
03-07-2006, 08:35 PM
And then there is the muzzle blast.
Had the good fortune recently to be in the presence of an idiot who touched off a 50 S&W a few feet behind me when my muffs were off. Range was down for target changes - guy was a real piece of work.
That one round probably cost me some hearing loss. The muzzle blast from that ported barrel was truly memorable - and painful.
Unload a cylinder full of these beasts without hearing protection and you are likely to be without hearing ... permanently.
03-07-2006, 08:43 PM
Jim - My son did say that the muzzle blast is like that of a heavy magnum rifle. But the hearing loss issue is something I hadn't thought about. Nobody that I know of wears hearing protection while hunting, and after taking a few animals with something like the .460 I'd bet a guy would suffer some hearing loss.
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