40d nails

[sdyotehunter]

As I write this it sounds like a dumb question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to buy some 40 penny nails for use in staking my tipi on frozen/hard ground. I can't find them anywhere. All I can find is the ringshank polebarn style nails. Can anybody give me an idea on where to find a 40d common (not box) nail? I've looked at lumberyards and even on eBay with no luck. Thanks.

[ovis]

SDH,

Got mine at Home Depot........they weren't with the rest of the nails in the fastner section....they were in the section w/rebar and that stuff.

Joe

[sdyotehunter]

Thank you, sir. We don't have a Home Depot nearby, but I'm wondering if Menard's would maybe have them. Anyone else have other suggestions?

[Smackdaddyj]

sd--

I use the Aluminum gutter nails. They are lighter that the 40d, but they work just as good. The only thing is that they can get frozen in pretty good. Make sure that you do not hammer them all the way in. When you are ready to pull them out, give them a whack or two to loosen them and then pull. Several other guys on the board have used these as well. They also seem easier to find. Hope this helps.

Smackdaddyj

[Medic17]

I use edging nails for my tents. You can find them at any place that sells plastic edging materials. Expecially thoes places that sell paver / brick materials. They start off as flattened pieces of aluminum which have a V type bend with a 90 bend for the hook. They go through all types of earth even frozen ground without bending and best of all they are really cheap about 10-25 cents each.

[Dave R.]

Medic17,
Would edging nails go into solid ice??

Dave

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Smackdaddyj:
sd--

I use the Aluminum gutter nails.</div></div>You "stole" my answer... I just finished building my house and noticed the gutter guy had dropped a couple... "Eureka" I thought! Now I see I'm not as smart as I thought... grin.

[sdyotehunter]

Smackdaddyj...I considered using the aluminum gutter spikes but thought they would bend too easily on frozen ground and/or ice. Can anyone share any first hand experiences using the gutter spikes with me? Thanks.

[Dale Lindsley]

I used gutter spikes with my Paratipi once in VERY rocky ground. They bent pretty badly. I'm not sure any other kind of nail would have performed better.

[sdyotehunter]

Dale,
In rocky ground you may be correct.
Anyone else have experiences with rocky or frozen ground?

[razorsharp]

I just camped on some rocky stuff. I'm not going to be much help but I wanted to share how impressed I was with the tipi's standard pegs and how most of them just 'wormed' their way in and stayed put even after days of rain.
I hammered them as hard as needed and none broke...it was warm, if freezing they may not have taken that abuse. Impressive.

[Medic17]

Yes edging nails would work on ice. Thats what I use. Works like a champ.