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Woods Walker
03-06-2005, 02:44 PM
This weekend I took my Paratipi out for the first time and WOW! More than enough room for two guys and gear. I had some hard wood sticks and some split hard wood. We tested it in the day. The temp was about 36 and we pushed the shelter up to 134 measured about 18 inches from the peak. The temp on the ground was 97. Just had a shirt on and was so hot that I had my face to the ground. The night temp was 19 and we got the tipi to 117. Donít know what the temp was on the ground but felt hot in my short sleeve shirt. I vented the thing out and it was like opening a door into space. Clearly heating the shelter is not an issue.

I have some nice picks but I donít know how to upload them to this board. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how.

Dave R.
03-06-2005, 03:04 PM
WW...Go to the main Kifaru hunting site...then hit the site map button....near the bottom there is a link with directions for posting pics. Sounds like you had a hot time in the tipi!! Great, isn't it??!!

Dave

Woods Walker
03-06-2005, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the info Dave, I will look over those instructions and upload the pics this week. I canít even explain the difference the enclosed heat made in my winter hike. The first night we started out very late around 9 pm. Being that this was my first time setting up the paratipi it thought it would be best to do it in the light of day. So I did what I always do during a winter ramble. I tossed the sleeping bag into my bivy sack and turned in. The temp dropped down into the lower teens. Was cold going it to my bag and it never got any better. Tossed and turned all night. The bag was rated down to 10 however I was up listening to the birds and the wildlife doing their 4 am to 6 am thing. Anyone that has spent time hunting or camping knows what I am talking about. Felt beaten down all day.

But the next night things were 100% better. Set up the Paratipi around 3 pm. It was easy! Took about 45 minutes getting wood. I had some split wood in my sled however there was enough good hard sticks around that I felt stupid for taking it. After we clocked the heat I cut back on the stove feeding to keep it about 75. Tossed in some larger chunks and turned in. Unlike the first night I was totally warm. About 3 am the cold woke me up. Tossed in some more wood and didnít get up again to about 8 am. Tossed in more wood from the comfort of my bag and within 5 minutes the digital thermometer read 80. Wow. No frozen boots. None of that butt cold getting out of the sleeping bag and into the cloths horse and pony show that every winter camper knows about! Felt great all day

Dave R.
03-06-2005, 05:32 PM
WW....great testimony!!! Kifaru should put your post on the web site!! This is EXACTLY how I felt on my first Elk hunt with my TIPI. The previous season I endured cold, clamy, dismal tent life at 10 degrees...it was miserable, sleep was scant and restless...

Like you, I have gotten up in the middle of the night cold and restarted my fire...you get warm...throw a pee, and you get back to bed to sleep in warmth...its great. If you remember to have your fire tinder and things set up near you before you go to bed, you can quickly get things rolling in the stove and get warmed up quick.

Dave

MikeM
03-07-2005, 04:54 AM
Woods Walker, what size stove? Thanks.

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 05:29 PM
I used the small stove. I also used a stove that I made in the work shop. They both cranked the tipi up to the posted temps. The small stove could heat that thing on the moon. I have not gotten the hang of posting photos yet. I did look over the directions on the Kifaru web sit and will work on that. Here is a link to my Yahoo photo site. The pics should be there.

http://photos.yahoo.com/daytraderwon

Ken
03-07-2005, 05:47 PM
WW- Once you get your pics saved on the web post their web address between and .

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 06:28 PM
OK Ken I will run a test photo. I hope it works out right.

http://imageevent.com/daytraderwon/parat...amp;s=0&z=2 (http://imageevent.com/daytraderwon/paratipi?p=0&n=1&m=24&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=2)

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 06:31 PM
oh god. LOL thats "m"...I will try again.

http://imageevent.com/daytraderwon/parat...amp;s=0&z=2 (http://imageevent.com/daytraderwon/paratipi?p=0&n=1&m=24&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=2)

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 06:31 PM
Well I tryed.....

Ken
03-07-2005, 06:32 PM
Havin' fun yet? /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Ken
03-07-2005, 06:33 PM
I don't see any pictures in your Yahoo link if that helps...

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 06:49 PM
Try the yahoo link again. But I uploaded the pics from photobucket so I don't think that is the issue.

Here is that link for yahoo. I hope I fixed that anyway.

http://photos.yahoo.com/daytraderwon

That should have all the photos (I hope)

Ken
03-07-2005, 06:55 PM
WW- Here's the address I get from your first pic...

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/422cb08fz3d7e0ce7/mail/__sr_/1726.jpg?phQZSLCBfL_wUNJp

IF I put that in between the and I should get your pic...

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/422cb08fz3d7e0ce7/mail/__sr_/1726.jpg?phQZSLCBfL_wUNJp

Ken
03-07-2005, 06:56 PM
...hey...what's that round stove doing in there? /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 07:02 PM
Brown paratipi blends in well.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi22.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

Ken
03-07-2005, 07:05 PM
no spaces...

Also click on the thumbnail in Yahoo to open the pictures to the size I have above, the right click it for properties, highlight the addy and copy it, then paste between the img brackets...

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 07:09 PM
After I work out this photo thing I will explain that. Let me tell you ken. Welding 22-20 and 14 gauge stainless steel is hard.

Ken
03-07-2005, 07:13 PM
I'll take your word for it...I'd have a hole in my left thumb if I tried something like that.

Ken
03-07-2005, 07:17 PM
EF- all that lightweight gear and you carry bricks for the floor of your tipi? /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 07:21 PM
Inside of Paratipi.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi4.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

Ken
03-07-2005, 07:26 PM
Now ya did it...where'd mine go?

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 07:35 PM
Yea that round stove is nice but it was so hard to make. However making something is great. As you well know! I made my stove out of stainless sheet. Used 22 gauge for the body 20 for the back and the door. And 14 gauge for the front rim it is 7x10 as to fit in my molle Sustainment pouch. I think there are some close ups on my yahoo photo link. It appears that I am too stupid to work out this photo posting. I still donít know why it wonít work.

On the issue of weight my small stove I got from Kifaru is about 13 oz lighter.

Both have their strong and weak points. I like them both.

Ken
03-07-2005, 07:41 PM
Looks like you got the one to work...I'm not sure why they are here one minute and gone the next. Maybe someone else will chime in with the answers.

Thanks for all of the info on the Para...as if I didn't want one bad enough already. You've got me wondering if the Parastove would be enough to heat the thing for my needs.


Looks like you did a nice job on the stove. What are it's strong points?

Woods Walker
03-07-2005, 08:27 PM
I only got your link to work for the pic not mine. I will try the service that EF told me about I am just on hold until they send me a ďwelcomeĒ email.

I think you should go with the small stove over the Para. It does not weigh that much more and the increased space is great for cooking. On my paratipi I got a 5-foot pipe. Drunken ďfriendsĒ trampled my original pipe so I got two 5 footers (incase that ever happens again). I like the extra clearance in case of sparks. Not that sparks seemed to be an issue.

Now on the cylinder shaped stove. I believe it has an increased updraft compared to my small stove. I have made an experimental stack robber for it and that increased the heat output big time. I didnít use it on the hike because I made it out of trash pipe and screws and it would not hold together. I will weld a good one soon. I bet it could heat a 6 man up nice. The second thing I like is that a cylinder shape does not warp. In fact I have ZERO warping. So the door opens and closes without the need of a latch. One reason that I removed it from the stove. The cylinder stove can be put on end to make a hobo stove for a small high heat campfire that needs very little wood. At night we put the small stove in the tipi and used the other one in HOBO mode. Nice little campfire that didnít need to be feed tons of wood. A hobo stove can turn snow into a rolling boil faster than anything. Makes a white gas stove look pitiful. The cylinder stove in darn near airtight so it smokes a lot less during down drafts. The legs are more stable for the type of ground and snow we have in the North East.

All of this comes at a price. I made some rails for the top but it is no way the cooker that my small stove is. I can fry something up and make coffee at the same time. I canít do that with my homemade job. There is the issue of the extra 13 oz (add 8 more to that if I make the stack robber). I donít mind extra weight to a point as I spend lots of time doing dead lifts and squats but still. Burn times for the two stoves are the same. It just does not seem to matter if the body is air tight or not. You need to burn the wood to get the heat and there is not a lot of wood in the first place. But man heat is great.

Woods Walker
03-08-2005, 06:04 AM
Ok I Believe this should now work for the pics. Thanks everyone for your help .

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi16.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi11.1.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi10.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi8.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/paratipi12.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/stove3.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

Dave R.
03-08-2005, 10:02 AM
Nice pics WW...remind me...did you make the cylinder stove? Have you thought about how to make a flat top for it for cooking??
You mentioned you live in the North East?? Are you coming to the Rondy next week?

Dave

Woods Walker
03-08-2005, 10:11 AM
Yes I made the stove. I was thinking about a flat top however I stayed with the cylinder shape because it was easier to make and much stronger. I just rolled the stainless in the roller and welded it. I did make some rails to balance a cook pot and it works fine. Also I have a small stove from Kifaru. It is a good cooker. So if I am going with friends and need to cook more I would just take the small stove. What is this Rondy thing?

Dave R.
03-08-2005, 11:04 AM
All the Folks(kifaru fans) in the Northeast area are welcome to come up to NY state next weekend friday -sunday March 18-20. Patrick Smith is coming, and we are going to camp and have some shooting action on Saturday...comraderie, fun. Let us know if you want to come, we'll resend the info and directions...actually, a Man on this board identified as Ken is arranging the site for the rondezvous...you can send him a private message and he will send info to you. Last year, the had the first Rondy in Colorado...everyone had fun. Patrick said he is going to bring tipis of various sizes for us to see too. He may be bringing his show stopping 16 man tipi! I think we are up to about 15 people coming so far...

Dave

Patrick
03-08-2005, 11:51 AM
Dave--

Most definitely the 16 man is coming. Yahoo.

Woods Walker
03-08-2005, 04:02 PM
Sounds like a great time but I have to work. What is up with a 16-man tipi? Wow that stove pipe must look like the barrel of that German rail gun that I saw on the History channel.