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Chris57
02-23-2005, 03:12 AM
Sgathak,

What do think? I saw your posted pic, frying an egg on the Spetsnaz. Think you could do that with a Glock?

Spetsnaz 26.6 oz non collaspsable

http://www.coldsteel.com/92sfs.html

Glock 24 oz telescopic plus a pack saw

<a href="http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/level4s.tam?xax=14423&amp;M5COPY%2Ectx=7576&amp;M5%2Ectx=7 576&amp;M2%5FDESC%2Ectx=Camp%20Tools%20%2D%20Machetes% 2C%20Hatchets%2C%20Shovels&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.e...%20Shovels&amp; (http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/level4s.tam?xax=14423&amp;M5COPY%2Ectx=7576&amp;M5%2Ectx=7 576&amp;M2%5FDESC%2Ectx=Camp%20Tools%20%2D%20Machetes% 2C%20Hatchets%2C%20Shovels&amp;level3%2Ectx=results%2E tam&amp;query%2Ectx=glock%20e%20tool&amp;backto=%2Fagcatal og%2Fresults%2Etam) level3%2Ectx=results%2Etam&amp;query%2Ectx=glock%20e%2 0tool&amp;backto=%2Fagcatalog%2Fresults%2Etam</a>

Anybody else have experience with the Glock?

Sgathak
02-23-2005, 03:34 AM
I dont know if you can fry an egg on a Glock, Im sure you could... but I wouldnt want to find out what the heat would do to nice polymer handle. Spetsnaz on the other hand.... use your handle for firewood if you want to. A few turns on the lathe, or $7 from Cold Steel and your shovels good as new.

No saw on the Spetsnaz, but it makes for a mean axe.

Ever hear of a guy named Fred Perrin? Knife maker, knife fighting instructor, and former French Army Commando. Heres his take on the Spetsnaz Shovel (turn your popup blocker on) - http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2292/shovelrev.htm

Chris57
02-23-2005, 04:01 AM
Thanks for the input! I think I'm likin that Spetsnaz!

Ralph
02-23-2005, 04:55 AM
The Glock has a steel blade, so could be used as a skillet, I guess. Both spades are similar in weight and quality. I like the Glock for its more scooped blade and compactness. For a truck tool the Spetznaz rigid handle would be no problem and the flatter blade lends itself to better emergency hacking. An axe or big knife does even better, though.

Sgathak
02-23-2005, 06:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">. An axe or big knife does even better, though.</div></div>Sorry Ralph, gotta disagree. Given the choice between a big knife - even a machete - or a Spets shovel, Id go with the shovel. More mass behind the cutting edge, and the transition curve between the side and front edges is a very effective "sweet spot".

Ralph
02-23-2005, 03:09 PM
The big knife I had in mind was on the order of the Cold Steel Trailmaster, but no matter. I have a shovel (Glock) and an axe in the truck all the time since weight and bulk are immaterial - within reason.

I've handled the Spets shovel, but have never actually used it, so I'll take your word for it. Probably a good choice if it is necessary to limit the selection.

BrooklynBen
02-23-2005, 05:31 PM
Just to confuse this issue a little further /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif , I have been looking at replacing my US folding shovel for one of US Calvary's Titanium Spades @ about $15. (I personally like the weight savings.) http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=5777&amp;tabID=&amp;categoryID= 302&amp;pos=40

I carry other 'wacking-hacking' tools, so I guess the opportunity to season my eggs with the dust and rust from my shovel just doesn't excite me for some reason.

Ralph
02-24-2005, 02:50 AM
Also heating the shovel like that will likely remove the temper of the blade. Besides, I have a small square skillet I cut the handle from (use pot gripper) for frying eggs that is likely to be bit tastier than rust &amp; dust.

Sgathak
02-24-2005, 08:14 AM
A) wash the shovel before cooking with it
B) the temper is unaffected on the Cold Steel, official issue Russian military shovels are thinner bladed and might be affected, but soldiers have done it since WW2.
C) dont cook on your shovel you damn idiot /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif Its a neat trick to show versatility... not exactly something you want to do everymorning. some peoples kids LOL /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

CCH
02-24-2005, 08:43 AM
Never heard of Fred Perrin before, but I now know that he loves his shovel with unparalleled and slightly disturbing passion. I had been hankering for one of those myself but after his account, I'm afraid that having one would utterly consume me, leaving me with no feeling or desire for my family, dogs or even pizza.

BrooklynBen
02-24-2005, 09:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Sgathak:
A) wash the shovel before cooking with it
/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif </div></div>What will people think of next?! :p What are eggs without 'dust n rust'?! Oh well, I suppose I could get used to them as long as they still had some paint chips in them.

Chris57
02-24-2005, 10:27 AM
I doubt I would ever find the need to cook with the shovel. But, I would very likely use it tending to a camp fire, so the wood makes sense. I also have one of the Gerber sport axes, which has been a pleasure to use, stays sharp great balance and lite. I have wondered though if I ever had to warm the steel as in extreme cold conditions, how would that effect the plastic? It's made me wonder if a wood handled hatchet wouldn't be the better pick?

anthracitic
02-24-2005, 11:07 AM
http://www.australianoutdoors.com/how%20to%20cook%20on%20shovel.htm

Sgathak
02-24-2005, 02:42 PM
For giggles

The stove - 2in wide, 3/4in tall. .5oz! With pot support, wind screen, and prime plate... under 1oz. Yup!

http://www.shadowslight.com/pictures/stove/stove.JPG

The kitchen - 1 stove + 1 fork + 1 shovel

http://www.shadowslight.com/pictures/stove/kitchen.JPG

Over Easy

http://www.shadowslight.com/pictures/stove/overeasy.JPG

Mmmmmmmmmm

http://www.shadowslight.com/pictures/stove/Mmmmm.JPG

Ready to go dig up some wild potatoes for dinner

http://www.shadowslight.com/pictures/stove/cleaned.JPG

anthracitic
02-24-2005, 02:51 PM
Now would you be so good as to describe your souffle technique!

Chris57
02-24-2005, 02:54 PM
Cool pics! I hope to soon be "loving" my shovel! (I don't know if I will "sleept" with it though, maybe just close by). BTW, I called Cold Steel to order and was pleasantly suprised the actual price is $24.99, and xtra handle $5 something. They said the website price was MSRP. So I ordered 2 ea for myself and son.

If you haven't checked out Sgathak's Fred Perrin link yet, you need to, a real hoot!