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misterpatrick
01-28-2005, 08:29 AM
Thought I'd post a couple tips and see if anyone else had any.

I pack my tent and liner in a Granite Gear compression sack:

<a href="http://www.granitegear.com/" target="_blank">http://www.granitegear.com/ (http://www.granitegear.com/products/packing_systems/air_line/index.shtml)</a>

Works great but I always end up forgetting my orginal stuff sack a with the tent directions. So what I've done is mark down the various stake out lengths with a marker on the center pole. Easy as pie.

Pulling stakes out is tough and I didn't want to pull on the tent itself. I found a lightweight rubber mallet with a short metal hook at the end. This gets packed in with my stove and is great for pulling pegs. If you wanted to save you back, a piece of climbers webbing would also do the trick.

Ken
01-28-2005, 08:53 AM
Misterpatrick- I dont put the tipi in any sack...just wad it into the pack...it takes whatever form necessary and helps to stabilize the load.

When pulling stakes, I grab the whole black patch that the loop is sewn into and yank. I'm in the process of getting one of these for pounding things...

http://www.888knivesrus.com/product/WETHUNTWILD

The hatchet would be mostly for winter conditions as I normally use a small rock, if anything, to put stakes in. We have soft soil here. If it works as well for cutting as I think it might, I could be inclined to leave my Gerber saw home...something about the Exchang-a-blade plastic handle and cold weather leaves me wondering if the hatchet will be the way to go. More utility, maybe more dependable, don't need a bone blade mid-winter etc...

I use the GG sacks for my sleeping bags, as they are very light.

Happy camping...

misterpatrick
01-28-2005, 01:06 PM
I use the compression sack as I need to get things as small as possible for kayaking or hauling a sled. By putting my sleeping bag and the tent in the compression sacks I get things nice and small. About half the normal stuffed size. I also keep the liner in the tipi so it no longer fits in the orginal sack.

As far as tugging on the black patch, it seemed like I was stressing the thread too much so I switched to the mallet. We have hard soil here so you really need to put some back into it.

I use one of these axes for winter camping:

http://www.fiskars.com/en_US/garden/lookupItem.do?cat=1&amp;itemNumber=24292&amp;fam=8

copper
01-28-2005, 01:45 PM
Nothing silly about a helpful tip /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Not to go off topic, but Misterpatrick, iof you Kayak, would you be familiar with the "Mohawk" brand canoes. I'm trying to find someone that has used them.

Thanks,
Copper

MikeM
01-28-2005, 02:03 PM
Well, if Patrick catches this Iíll claim the fifth or else or blame my brother since that always worked when I was a kid. Anyway, I bought some nylon, multi-stand, bright orange sting from the lumber yard (has probably a 100 lb breaking strength). I put a loop of the sting around each of the longer stakes. When it comes time to pack up I insert a spare stake into the loop and pull.

PS. I see Patrick has said in another thread to use a small stake under the center pole. I turned one of those 10 inch stakes into a pretzel already getting it to close to the stove. The stake might work good in rocky ground and walk right around the rock. Iíll have to try it sometime.

Misterpatrick, are those sacks waterproof?

misterpatrick
01-29-2005, 12:21 PM
Copper, I've heard of Mohawk but haven't paddled one. Both of my canoes are Wenonah's and I paddle a variety of kayaks. I'd just do a google search for Mohawk and see if you can find any reviews.

As far as waterproofness for the sacks. I don't think they're rated as waterproof, but the material is the same silicon impregnated nylon as the tipi and by compressing them you create a quasi vacuum that keeps water out. I I doubt they would hold up to a sustaind dunking, but for general dryness I think they hold up fine. I have stored a soaking wet tent in one and everything stayed dry in the backpack outside of it.

razorsharp
01-29-2005, 05:00 PM
My Swiss Army can opener makes a perfect stake puller. I would not use the tipi to pull the stakes.
The stuff sack sounds like a great idea.

huntinhick
01-29-2005, 06:30 PM
Ken,

I have been looking at the Gransfors Bruks mini hatchet, it weighs like 11oz. however it does look a lot like the one you are looking at. if you get it I would love to hear what you think, I am planning on replacing my belt knife and saw with it and just carrying a pocket knife. Well I might still carry a small saw.

huntinhick

Ken
01-29-2005, 07:54 PM
HH- here a comparison between hatchets...

http://www.physics.mun.ca/~sstamp/knives/wetterling_hatchet.html

It looks like the Gansfors are the total package, but the Wetterling performs very well for the cost. I figured that I would try one for the price. I'll be sure to report on how the hatchet works. It will probably be a winter tool for me, as the Gerber works well during hunting season and the bone blade has come in handy a time or two...overall the Gerber is lighter, and I stick a spare knife in the sheath as well. It's a tough setup to beat for me, but I've been itching to try the hatchet...for $24...it won't hurt as much as the Gansfors.

Have fun...