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Sawtooth
07-30-2011, 04:31 PM
Here are a few KU3700 pics from this spring and summer. I ran a slick pack, two long pockets and a small pod, and two long pockets with a Grab It. All for different missions along the trail. Average 3-4 day pack weight is around 30 pounds, and a week-long pack weighs around 40 max. What a great, purpose-driven pack!

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k112/Sawtooth_1963/PaulShawn.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k112/Sawtooth_1963/KU3700-1.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k112/Sawtooth_1963/KU3700.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k112/Sawtooth_1963/P104077211.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k112/Sawtooth_1963/P104077311.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k112/Sawtooth_1963/197548_1910910341898_1516058210_32055658_7732435_n .jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k112/Sawtooth_1963/189886_1910935862536_1516058210_32055722_7783985_n .jpg

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Phil
07-30-2011, 06:27 PM
Sawtooth: Are you using the 22" OR 24" stays? GREAT pictures. phil

Sawtooth
07-30-2011, 08:04 PM
22"...I'm a shrimp.

hunting1
07-30-2011, 08:50 PM
Great pics!

Edwood
08-01-2011, 01:01 PM
Nice.

Does it get more sweaty hot with a Koala on at the same time?

Patrick
08-01-2011, 01:35 PM
Edwood, I can rspond for Sawtooth as he's out of pocket right now. Saw and I wear the Koala full-time with our packs. The answer is: not if you wear the Koala "low", like you see him wearing it. I do the same.

Sawtooth
08-01-2011, 09:07 PM
Precisely! The reason it's not so sweaty is that as you go through the motion of hiking, with forward, backward, and lateral movement at your waist and torso, the Koala gets some air behind it if you wear it lower like we do. The bottom of my Koala ends up about an inch above the waistbelt on the pack when I'm standing upright. It's very easy to adjust this height too...just tweak the lifters that attach the Koala to the shoulder straps on the pack. Wearing the Koala lower on your torso also makes it much easier to get items out of your shirt pockets, and also to unbutton your shirt for ventilation.

Wind Talker
08-01-2011, 09:26 PM
One thing that amazes me is how that UL material seems to change shades with varying degrees of light on it. It's not like shadows of sort, but more like a chameleon. CB to foliage to almost OD. It's always interesting to see how this occurs in different pictures that get posted.

longrifle
08-10-2011, 08:33 PM
Sawtooth can you give us a list of what you were carrying on your hyke, just wondering what your gear was.
THanks

Longrifle

mark s
08-12-2011, 10:28 AM
Sawtooth,

What is your rationale for going with the 3700, two long pockets and a small pod versus a 5200?

Sawtooth
08-13-2011, 03:18 PM
In a word...modularity. In another word...minimalism. Most times I don't need any of those attachments if I'm solo and going light. Other times when hauling bigger shelters and stoves with partners, I do. Another thing is that I just simply don't prefer a big pack, never have. I used to live out of a Late Season/medium pod, and even the largest Kifaru pack I've ever had (a standard Longhunter) was the smallest version available. I've been using packs in the 4000 ci size for decades and really prefer one that size. I am not a physically big or heavy man, nor is my gear. I simply cannot fill up a 5000 ci pack full of meat and walk off with it. A 100-pound pack is around 77-78% of my body weight...the equivalent of a 200-pound man carrying a 156-pound pack. I don't think there are too many, if any, ramblers out there willing or able to do that, and certainly not the distances I routinely travel. :) I also don't have any desire to fill up a 5000-7000 ci pack full of gear if I can help it. Another plus to having your shelter and pegs in a small pod is that you can simply drop the pod and there's your camp...no digging in the pack for it. This is especially nice when bad weather is moving in hard and you need to get things done in a hurry. Same thing for the long pockets for things like spotting scopes, etc. Again, no digging.

Wind Talker
08-13-2011, 09:57 PM
... Another plus to having your shelter and pegs in a small pod is that you can simply drop the pod and there's your camp...no digging in the pack for it. This is especially nice when bad weather is moving in hard and you need to get things done in a hurry. Same thing for the long pockets for things like spotting scopes, etc. Again, no digging.

It seems your setup mirrors that of TAK's with what he has described on his Zulu, except for the pod. I do not remember if he said he used one or not. However, the logic behind putting the shelter, pegs, etc in a pod for the reasons described make a world of sense. As much as I try to reduce the number of outside pockets on my theoretical setup (I'm still working the bugs out, before buying some gear I may not use) I keep coming back to a pod and a couple of long pockets on a pack around 4000 cu. in or so as an almost ideal arrangement.

Phil
08-14-2011, 05:20 AM
+1 on Sawtooth's discription on why he uses the ku 3700. At 5' 9" and 135lbs. I don't need a pack with a volume over 5000 c.i. The only change I made was putting the ku 5200 belt on my ku 3700. phil

Take-a-knee
08-14-2011, 08:05 AM
It seems your setup mirrors that of TAK's with what he has described on his Zulu, except for the pod. I do not remember if he said he used one or not. .

I have a small pod but I haven't really used it. My G2 Zulu has a pair of long pockets and an E&E on it. I have a KU 3700 on order that will be similarly set up.

Saw, what size shelter do you carry in a small pod? I'm assuming a Sawtooth will fit? With a stove?

Ralph
08-14-2011, 08:23 AM
I also like the idea of the shelter pieces in a pod. Pods, especially the smaller ones, compress very well onto the pack and don't distort the balance too much. Relatively heavy, dense gear like the K. stoves are best carried closer to the back though.

Sawtooth
08-14-2011, 12:13 PM
If I'm carrying my Para Stove or Small Stove, I stick the stove inside the pack, next to my back. The small pod will hold a Sawtooth shelter and pegs, yes. I don't use the pod if I'm solo and carrying my Para Tarp/Annex, which goes on the very top of the pack inside. Sometimes I'll stick my Para Tarp inside the pack and use an UL Grabit to hold the Para Stove. So many options!