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Stan
04-30-2003, 12:29 PM
Anybody out there have any good recommendations for lightweight, water-proof/non-breathable rain gear (top and bottom)? I have been looking for something in coated nylon with leg zippers and vented/zippered coat. I'd like something lighter than HH Impertech, but doesn't have to be ultralight. So far, can't find the right combination!

Stan

shu
05-02-2003, 09:03 AM
Stan-

I've owned Columbia Ibex raingear (PVC-coated nylon) and was not impressed. It is poorly vented and stiff. Cost is only $50- for a set, weight runs around 30 ounces.

Sierra Designs Backpacker (poly-coated ripstop) looks to be pretty good stuff but I don't have any real experience with it. Cost is around $90- per set, weight listed as 20 ounces (pants only have calf zipper).

I just ordered a Red Ledge Thunderlight parka (coated ripstop). Touted as breathable but not particularly so, it has pit zips and mesh pockets for ventilation. $90- per set (with full-zip pants) and about 24-ounce total weight. I can give a more detailed review after I have a chance to test it.

Also, Backpackinglight (http://www.backpackinglight.com/index/49/) has a pretty good comparison of various light rain jackets including the Sierra Designs, Red Ledge, and Frogg Toggs products (I think it has been referenced before on the board).

I hope this is useful;

shu

Sgathak
05-04-2003, 12:12 AM
Ive had good luck with Russian Military rain gear.

http://www.stubbygear.com/product.asp?productid=10021
or http://russiancombatgear.com/bdu.php (cheaper, but ships from St Petersburg so there is a wait on arrival.)

Patrick
05-04-2003, 05:06 AM
sgathak--

Interesting gear, the Russian stuff. I have a question or two. What's the weight of that rain suit from stubbygear? The exterior finish...is it noisy? Not that it really matters all that much...when everything's wet, including the foliage you're plowing thru, noisy is pretty much a non-issue, but just thought I'd ask. But I AM interested in the weight, as always. BTW, congrats on your cybersluething prowess!

Stan
05-04-2003, 05:31 AM
Shu, thanks for the info. I'd like to hear how you make out with that Red Ledge stuff!

Sgathak, interesting looking stuff. How tough is the fabric?

Stan

JF
05-04-2003, 09:48 AM
Stan:

I am on the same quest, since I have finally concluded that fancy W/B stuff is just not very brethable. I have just looked at some stuff at the Sierra Trading Post outlet near me. The Sierra Designs Backpacker and Peak bagger are pretty "crackely". I have researched the site that shu mentioned and the reviews are really interesting. I'm currently thinking Red Ledge or Frogg Toggs.

JF

Sgathak
05-04-2003, 09:52 AM
Weight? Not sure... Its not ultralight or anything, but its "comfortable"... if that makes sense? The material its made of is kind of like tent fabric but has an acrylic WPing rather than silicon or Polyurethan. Obviously there is a small trade off in weight for the convience of the pockets... but thats negligable I think. Sorry, I dont have a hard weight for you. Compairing them to a pair of Stearns rain gear. It weighs about 1/4 as much... and compresses a 1/3 smaller.

The sound isnt too loud, and gets softer after a few usages (or washings... If you want to just throw them in a few times before heading out.) kinda like Frogg Toggs

The material is decently strong. Ive slid down rubble piles on my knees without problems and have sniper crawled over knotty logs without an issue, though I did put a small (1/8 x 1/4in) hole in one of the knees on a training run... I tripped on some rebar and came down hard on some plexiglass like material that put a cut into it. But it patches like a tent... nothing special. My one testing caveat was that the suit I was using was a bit oversized... get one thats likely to fit you.

For its cost, its one of the best values around.

elmbow
05-04-2003, 10:37 PM
I'm not sure if Peter Storm products have ever been discussed on this forum but they are excellent quality, ultralightweight. They used to do camo, I don't know if they still do, but they offer Olive drab. <www.peterstorm.com>

05-05-2003, 08:32 AM
I wore a Peter Storm windbreaker on a bike ride yesterday. I've owned that jacket for 27 years.

Sgathak
07-15-2003, 10:35 AM
Just a quick update to this thread...

I found a US supplier offering the suit I mentioned. They sell it in 2 parts (top and/or bottom) and at a fairly reduced price.

<a href="http://www.redsoldier.com" target="_blank">http://www.redsoldier.com (http://www.redsoldier.com)</a>

Rooster
07-15-2003, 01:21 PM
Stan, Why nonbreatheable? I tried many before I just finally parted with the bucks and went for breathability. I got wetter from the inside than the outside with nonbreathable.

BobG
07-15-2003, 09:39 PM
This is what we use in S.E. Alaska:
http://www.watershed-rainwear.com/02nitril.htm
It seems to hold up the best to the heavy brush and is reasonably lightweight.