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imported_Randy
08-04-2003, 10:12 PM
Hey folks,

Just finished the book that knocked Mrs. Clinton off the #1 spot of the bestseller list!
"Treason" by Ann Coulter, good read and while it would be interesting to see it in the context of a debate forum with a representative from the liberals, it leaves that bunch with alot of questions to answer, in my mind. It sure had the ring of truth to it although scathing, but perhaps deservedly so. Regardless I think there would be quite a few of you who would enjoy it. And perhaps a few that would not, and it should be required reading for you. Best to all, Randy

Patrick
08-05-2003, 02:02 PM
Randy--

Frankly, I'm kind of tickled to see this post on a subject that's not wolf related. Congratulations, and thank you. I haven't read Ms. Coulter's book, yet, but I'm aware it's causing quite a storm. I wonder if you would be so kind as to tell us about it? What's her point, thesis? I really would like to get started on this before we all have to go fetch the book and read it. And I am absolutely certain you can do justice to it.

imported_Randy
08-05-2003, 11:17 PM
Patrick,
What a coincidence! I just got my order in the mail today from Kifaru. More meat baggies and another gunbearer (I have more than 1 pack, so must have more than 1 gunbearer). Please pass on the Kudo's to the staff, it takes a bunch of good folks to make a good company.

As to Ms. Coulter's book, here's my book report. She's gone to the trouble to do some homework to substantiate her claim that most liberal mindset borders on TREASON when it comes to matters of foreign policy and National Defense. Up until recently it used to be pretty much accepted that most if not all of the major media outlets are run by liberals, the only dissenting opinion of that statement seems to be a new tactic by the most far left that when said newspapers and tv and radio stations veer even slightly to the right to appear more moderate to an audience at large, the leftists scream at the top of their lungs about "the far right bought and paid for press". IMO pick up any of the majors, NY times, Wash. Post, WSJ and read their take on things, especially from the editorial page and it seems pretty clear they are still run by and for the liberal mindset. There has been some counterbalance with Fox news from a tv standpoint and I do believe talk radio is dominated by right wing or conservative hosts (at least the stations I tune in to) but by and large I believe most news delivered to the masses has a liberal slant.
I don't believe there is much of an argument available that the NEA, most Universities and the halls of acadameia are "not run" by liberals.
That said most history books and mass distributed information is disseminated with a definite liberal slant. Ms. Coulter makes individual and point by point cases to support those positions.
A recurring theme in her book is the way that most Americans view the word "McCarthyism" and the man the term is derived from Joe McCarthy. For years liberals have used that term as a synonym for "fascism" they have railed on and on about the innocent lives that were damaged or ruined by an extremist view and subsequent actions perpetuated by one man. Due to fairly recent released documents from the Feds concerning the Verona Project ( VP: we broke the Soviet diplomatic code long before that info was released to the general public for the strategic advantage it gave us during the Cold War) it turns out McCarthy was not just crying "Wolf" (couldn't resist, sorry) but in fact a great many of the "innocent lives" he ruined were in fact working for the Soviets or directly linked with those that were! Wonder why you haven't heard about VP? Perhaps read the above paragraphs and see who is responsible for disseminating most of the info the masses receive!
That's just one of the topics, most liberal actions and reactions to matters of Defense have been an impediment or have either inadvertantly(?) aided and abetted our enemies. She goes back in time to record the liberal response to Reagans handling of the Cold War and the eventual demise of the Soviet Union brought about by President Reagan. It's refreshing to see what the liberals thought of his course of action after we have all been allowed to review the results of said actions.
Coulter also takes a swipe at a percentage of our nations inexplicable (to me anyway) illusions that because someone makes an unbelievable amount of money for pretending to be someone they are not (read actors) that they are somehow blessed with an insight concerning world politics and morality that the rest of us poor working stiffs are just too dull to get a handle on! That's a crowd that I personally can do without, I like a good movie as well as the next guy, but just because someone wears makeup on a regular basis does not mean I want them telling my mechanic how to work on my car or my Senator how to vote! Play dress up, pretend to be a hero and entertain me, but don't think because People mag has a photographer on you most of the time that I give a HOOT (had a stronger word in mind, but our host has reminded us that we have guests from all walks of life here) what you think!

My book report doesn't do the tome justice, and I hope you won't be put off from giving "TREASON" a closer look because of my inarticulate ramblings about it. Long time ago Jack Fowler made the comment something to the effect "that liberals can't bear to cross swords intellectually, they must resort to passion, name calling and attacking the messenger of a better idea or plan" (not an exact quote) this book bears witness to that statement, much as some of the discussions of this board have.
My view (and book report) from AK, Randy

Patrick
08-06-2003, 12:50 PM
Randy, that is what my Grandpop would call a humdinger of a report. I especially like your calling attention to Coulter's take on the actor phenomenon. What a telling way to point out that the Left lives in a fantasy world. This results in danger to the rest of us. And an especial thanks for bringing Jack Fowler back to our consciousness.

Ann Coulter adds to the growing number of folks speaking out against the choke hold the left has on the information we receive. Bless her for going clear back to the McCarthy era, which in many ways was the transformation period when the Left locked onto what we think we "know". Now that we've begun to clear that up we have knocked some more props from beneath the scoundrels. Hurray for talk radio and the Fox News folks. And thanks for the inciteful overview. I'll get to the book in due course.