View Full Version : Ecr 2009

02-08-2009, 06:10 AM
I'll start the thread, since I'm the first one back. I didn't bring my camera, but I'm sure others did. As always, a great time. The only thing I regret about these things is that being scattered all over the northeast, we don't get a chance to get together more often. Much as many of us have a sort of nostalgia about days past, a rendezvous does point out that the Internet in general and this message board has wrought some good changes since we would never have gotten to know each other without them.

Also, as always, many thanks to Johnny for extending the hospitality of his camp and to Ken for all the effort extended to make the event happen.

The weather was decent. I'd say about 2.5 ' of snow pack on the ground generally. Temps were lows of around zero Thursday night/Friday morning warming to around 40 on Saturday. Friday and Saturday were clear with light overcast (my preferred light for shooting). The tipi city had a good representation of most of the sizes available from the tarps to the 16-man. Patrick mentioned a 24-man tipi is in the works but didn't say anything about rigging for the trapeze act. A 24-man is going to be something to see.

This is the first chance I've had to see the Packlock clothing. Remarkable stuff, amazingly light and compact. I think at least a windshirt and a pair of slipovers are in my future.

I didn't participate in the shooting. (Moving through the snow, especially uphill, proved to be more draining than I thought - dealing with these physical limits is something of a new experience for me. I'm going to keep doing what I like doing for as long as I can, but I don't want to be a problem for my companions so I have to use good judgement as to what I can reasonably do.) Some of the highlights I watched from the camp were shooting GJZ's new .50 S&W (the boom was quite pronounced as was the visible recoil), and Patrick's first experience shooting a Garand. I'm sure some of the other guys will have more to say.

The companionship was excellent, the conversation always interesting. FWIW we were all convinced that there was more solid knowledge about how the economy worked sitting around the camp table at breakfast than exists in all of congress.

02-08-2009, 10:07 AM
thanks for the 'forward' to what I am sure will be a great report!
Glad you enjoyed yourself, but too bad about not being able to participate in the shooting part. Not knowing the others, I am sure that they would not be put out by helping you enjoy the shooting part-no matter the "problem" to them-just a feeling I have.
Looking forward to some pics!
Isn't it funny how ordinary people like us can figure out the problems of the world, solve them, and our illustrious "leaders" haven't got a clue?

Thanks again Ralph!


02-08-2009, 05:21 PM
Ralph it was good to see you made it to the ECR 2009! And I agree, It wouldn't be possible without Ken, Johnny and Patrick's tremendous hospitality! It was truly great to see everyone again and it was another first class event as usual and appreciate everyone's help and advise with setting up the tipi and wood stove. I learn more from you folks in one day than I would learn on my own in a year....you really have this stuffed nailed. Shooting, is always fun and the cider, deer and bear is always a treat combined with all the great conversation in the cabin or late at night in the awesome 16 person tipi. An adventure like no other and always worth the trip. It was also a blast watching Ken teaching his son master the CZ.
Hope to see everyone again!

Maybe if our leaders haven't forgot this quality way of life....they would get it but unfortunate they don't.

02-09-2009, 02:09 PM
Alright already...let's see some pictures!

Dave R.
02-09-2009, 07:04 PM
Hello All....I'm still at the Rondy...Will post when I return


02-09-2009, 08:10 PM
Hello All....I'm still at the Rondy...Will post when I return


The Kifaru spirit lives....

02-09-2009, 08:14 PM
I gotta differ to all the other guys for pic's for now. I forgot the camera when I left for work this AM and won't be back home 'till Wednesday night...

Great time....

I'm glad to have met Billybass, Jimrasaco, Andy's friends Roby and Bobby and WW's buddy Chris.

I'll add more later, but for now I'll say that the Garand and the 500 were a hoot ta shoot. I'm pretty sure the Garand was capable of making a mediocre shooter like myself look darn good. Look thru the peep, swing the front post on the target, squeeze....BOOM...TING!!...gotta love it!

Many thanks to Weave and my cousin Pete for helping out with the event...couldn't do it without you fellas.

I was glad to see all the familiar faces again this year. It struck me that this is all getting to be 'old hat' in a good way as I was getting things ready Wednesday. I'm glad to have been fortunate enough to have gained the friendships of such a crew. My only wish is that it wouldn't end so fast and we could have some more time to fling lead and shoot the schitt.

Thanks to Patrick and Kifaru as well. Great man, great company. I thank you all in Golden for bringing the rest of us together.

02-10-2009, 09:14 AM
Ken and his son
Andy shooting his Savage Scout
Patrick doing a little shooting. I had a great time, and met a bunch of great people and would like to thank everybody who made it happen. Take care Robbie

02-10-2009, 09:16 AM
Saturday night

PA Scott
02-10-2009, 10:44 AM

Great photos! I particularly enjoyed the ones with Ken assisting Landon with the first of many future shots from a .22 -- kinda what growing up in America is all about as one generation teaches the next. The photo of Patrick smiling & laughing also captures the moment perfectly.

It was a pleasure meeting you & sharing some time together in the 16 man & on the range. I uploaded some photos of my own last night and hopefully will have time to post them this evening after I get the chores done.

PA Scott

02-10-2009, 12:01 PM
Here are some of the photos from the weekend.
Boy was it ever cold however it was great to be in the 16 man
(Just joking)

02-10-2009, 01:46 PM
Looks you guys had a blast! Man, that Garand brings back memories...
We toted those things in military school - Quite a piece when you're
a skinny kid!


02-10-2009, 06:51 PM
It was a great weekend! I wish I was able to get there sooner.

Thanks to Ken and his crew for getting everthing ready.

I'm glad Johnny could get some time off from the toy factory!:rolleyes:

There was too much good food to eat; I got full before I had the chance to sample everything. Thanks to all those who brought in some wild game.

Patrick, it was great to have you there and hear your ideas and suggestions.

Bobby and I smelled a skunk on the way in and thankfully didn't see it:


Here is one view of the camp:


A quick burn before turning in for the night:



02-10-2009, 06:54 PM
Robbie opens the can of Garand ammo:


Bobby with the Savage Scout and GJZ with the Garand:



02-10-2009, 06:58 PM
great time and fun, thank you ken and everyone!

Parking lot start:

home sweet home

Tipi city


02-10-2009, 07:11 PM
Large stove warming up:




02-10-2009, 07:23 PM
16 man hangin
The master working hard on R&D

02-10-2009, 07:31 PM
The sad end...................
out of ammo
hiking out

Dave R.
02-10-2009, 07:45 PM
Still at the ECR camp ..will post when I return...


Woods Walker
02-10-2009, 07:57 PM
I had a great time despite the smirk on my face in one of the photos. Good time shooting and my normal crazy talk was in full swing. Too bad my AR-15 was not zeroed in but kinda cool to see Patrick spray and pray New England style with it. Had fun acting like a nerd comparing new headlamps and lights. Also enjoyed sporting my fag blue crocs. Ken is a great guy and a good host.

02-10-2009, 10:05 PM
excellent pics and post gentlemen!

02-10-2009, 11:25 PM
Here's one of my favorites....

Every time Ken's son would take a shot with the CZ with his dads careful guidance Landon would look through the scope, fire and say....Almost!!!

That was a special moment they shared together that will last a lifetime....

02-12-2009, 10:15 AM
Looks like a ton of fun. Looking forward to the next one out west.

02-12-2009, 10:25 AM
Looks like a ton of fun. Looking forward to the next one out west.

I'm sure it will be a great time....

02-12-2009, 03:57 PM
WW stove 101
Toasty success
But somebody looks scared or serious?

02-12-2009, 04:01 PM
Thanks to Ken and everyone for their hospitality! I wish I had more time to talk with everyone, and try the famous cider. Thanks Plodder for showing me around the tipis, Scott for letting me shoot his 22 and Jim for the chat about the pupper. Next year I hope to spend the weekend in my new 4 man! btw WW I cant afford to read any more of your gear reviews, just dropped $44 on the EOS II. I hate having OCGD!

Woods Walker
02-12-2009, 08:42 PM
The look on my face comes from the realization that everyone will see my fag blue crocs. I had Patrick and Pa Scott in the tipi later that night. Think I burned maybe 12-15 split sticks over 3 hours for an average burn time of 50ish minutes per stoke. The wood could have been seasoned some more however got the stove red hot. Nearly drove me out of the tipi as the overnight temps only got down into maybe the upper 20’s. Heck was forced to use my sleeping bag as a blanket. Yea that EOS is a winner just make certain you get the new 50 lumen model with frosted optic. I used the Zebralight H50 and my buddy who wisely kept his distance once those crocs came out used the Rebel EOS.

Here is something funny. My buddy fell asleep loading the stove during the time me and Patrick closed down the 16 man tipi late Saturday night/early Sunday morning talking about OCGD. Can't speak for him but I was drunk. Anyways turned in and around 3 am the stove just started up on its own. Apparently he tossed wood over some coals and the stove went out only to refire hours later as the heat dried and baked the wood. Kinda messed with my hung over mind to open my eyes and see a red hot stove going full blast.

02-13-2009, 07:19 AM
Woods, I remember well the conversation. If you were inebriated you were nonetheless quite lucid. The discussion on stove philosophy boiled down to man-carryable weight vs. the "free" weight of fuel waiting for you at campsite, and which was ultimately the most efficient approach. We agreed on which it was. Delightful evening, my friend. A pair of inventors having a grand time!

Dave R.
02-13-2009, 04:06 PM
Will post soon...still have ammo.


Dave R.
02-14-2009, 02:44 PM
Hi All,

I'm back now.....What a great weekend. Hats off to Ken! Once again hosting a great weekend! That's what I'm talkin' about.....HOLD ON!!!!

So...eating like a King, shooting till dusk, getting an education from Ralph, enjoying ferments by the wood stove, singing the same Grateful Dead tune 400 hundred times with Banjo and guitar and wishing you could sing it 400 more....laughing till your sides split, sleeping in comfort at 5 below, bear meat, PA scott and Woodswalker, and Mrs. Ginter bringing the goods.....deer, bear, Yum.....unbelievable yum, yes extreme taste sensation....the food God intended for our bodies.

......oh.......Liquid gold, yes the liquid nectar of the Gods, the swill of Kings, the lip smackin' tounge slappin' multiple gallons of Hard Cider created by Maestro Scott, Master of ferment, alchemist of apples, the beverage wizard of Pennsylvania....it really does sneak up on you!! Kind of like how GJZ arrives in Camp!! Please read the label.

Had a great time meeting the newcomers too and hope we meet again and again.

Back to guns....ever watch two Marines and a Sailor shoot? They are the real deal..trained and competent, WOW!! Then there is Patrick who can sight a rifle in....Free Hand!!!! No kidding....'nuff said.

Woodsy...I think you solved the fuel shortage problem with your stove....are you going for cold fusion next?

If you haven't been to a Kifaru Rendezvous....GO!! You will have a ball.

Horizontal Dave

02-14-2009, 07:17 PM
Dave, Glad you made back....
We were starting to get worried and head back to look for you.

02-16-2009, 09:25 PM
Looks like another successful ECR. Sorry I missed it. Got laid off and so things are kinda in a funk these days. Thanks for the pics and stories!

02-17-2009, 09:28 AM
Ksnake, good to hear from you....

hope everything works out for you and I'm sure there will be other Rendezvous to make....

Woods Walker
02-17-2009, 07:27 PM

Always learn something new when talking with you. Great explanation of the balance between durability, utility and weight in respect to gear.


Sorry to hear the news. You were missed.

02-18-2009, 01:14 PM
Ended up working the weekend of the ECR. One of these years I'll make it again.

02-18-2009, 05:21 PM
Looks like another successful ECR. Sorry I missed it. Got laid off and so things are kinda in a funk these days. Thanks for the pics and stories!

How is Woodland Girl?

02-27-2009, 10:09 PM
Greg...PM me your e-mail please...