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1/19th
07-09-2006, 07:11 AM
I am looking to buy one of the Krebs AK but i am torn between the calibers that they offer. The 5.45x39 seems like a good round but the time tested 7.62x39 is on i know i can count on. Anyone have experience with them both and can shed some light on the subject. Any info will be helpful.

wookieJS
07-09-2006, 08:40 AM
I can't really say much abotu the 5.45 but what i've heard is that it's not as good a round as the 5.56 that we use, plus i seem to think that 7.62x39 is hell of alot easier to find then the 5.45 would be. Then again i never went looking for it but the 7.62 round while not very accurate has good stopping power if u take it hunting or for home defense. Well this is just my opinion hope it helps.

BrooklynBen
07-09-2006, 10:12 AM
1/19th - wookieJS makes some good points. Your question is sort of like "which hammer is better?" The answer is obviously "what you primarily intend the tool to be used for."

If it helps at all, I happen to have some experience with a 5.56 chambered AK as well as the common 7.62 AK. For longer ranges, I might prefer the 5.56. But the 7.62 'punches' things much better in closer ranges.

1/19th
07-09-2006, 10:32 AM
my main idea i guess is cqb work. and 3 gun tournaments. i just like the idea of the ak style of weapon system.

BrooklynBen
07-10-2006, 08:29 AM
100% - 7.62 for CQB (over 5.45) However with regard to "3 Gun tournaments", I know absolutely nothing.

eggroll
07-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Curious to why krebs vice Armory USA?

1/19th
07-10-2006, 08:58 PM
I have just heard good things about the Krebs from a few different people i know. I am still open to any suggestions though.

JasonB
07-11-2006, 02:57 PM
Having owned one for awhile I definitely wouldn't do 5.45 due to ammo availabilty alone. Other than the oddball batch of com-bloc stuff the only 3 types semi-consistently available were Wolf ball, Wolf JHP, and Barnaul ball. Super accurate though.

Actually from limited playing around with 7.62x39, accuracy from non-Chinese rifles isn't too bad and mags & ammo are plentiful.

AbnMedOps
07-11-2006, 05:08 PM
For ammo availability, as well as between-deployments AK proficiency practice, 7.62 x 39.

Steelworker
07-11-2006, 05:33 PM
I have experience with both calibers. We had a Krebs Krinkov in 5.45x39 and currently have an Arsenal USA 7.62x39. The hollow point 5.45 rounds won't open up and the wound ballistics of the 5.45 FMJ's are worse than M193 5.56x45. Ammo selection is poor with the 5.45. It certainly isn't particularly effective when intermediate obstacles are encountered, as Russian soldiers found out in Chechnya. It does recoil less and is certainly more accurate, but I'd stick with the more effective 7.62x39. The best currently available factory load for hunting/self defense is the Winchester soft point. The Lapua ammo is even better, but I haven't seen it in a couple of years.

dangarcia
07-12-2006, 05:58 AM
Hey Jake,
Good to see you on the Kifaru board brother. I'll be gone by the time you get back from the box, but I'll see you on a drop zone somewhere

dan

oh..and go with the 7.62x39

1/19th
07-29-2006, 10:21 AM
Hey Dan,
Hope you are going somewhere good. Nice to hear from you. Hey if you have dobbins number or any contact info for him and koop let me know.
Be safe and when in doubt empty your mag.

jake