View Full Version : Introducing the XTL lumbar pack

05-31-2006, 11:29 PM
I've come up with a way to make my XTL a lumbar pack that even uses the deltas. I came up with this when I needed a day pack before I had my TG1. As you can see in the photos I sewed a piece of velcro to the back of a No.5 lock and load. This mates to the velcro on the belt. Having a pocket against your back does limit you to having soft items in it but worked out well for my extra socks and a polypro shirt. This arrangement really adds versatility to the great XTL.

With a nonpadded belt tucked behind the lock n load pocket it becomes a real alternative to the E&E.

Other XTL enhancements include adding SR buckles to quickly eject it from my pack.

I've included a picture of the XTL open along with my TG1 for a size comparison.

I threw in a picture of my Hotshot attached to the shoulder straps of my TG1 which turns out to be very comfortable.

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06-01-2006, 08:52 AM
inFALable . . .

That is a really great idea you've come up with. Yet another example of the versatility of Kifaru gear and their users. What type of ruck do you mount the XTL too? What capacity are you using the XTL for when dismounted from your ruck. Just wondering as I am seriously thinking about getting an XTL myself.

Take care . . .

06-01-2006, 10:21 AM

Thanks for the kind words. I have the XTL on my Zulu but I will soon buy a ZXR. I use the XTL for all kinds of stuff. I take it to the office sometimes with just the shoulder strap. It goes on short hikes some with my Hotshot. (But that role is mainly filled by my excellent TG1 now). When my Zulu is a carry-on the XTL stays with me while my ruck goes overhead. It makes the Zulu the perfect carry-on. When in the field (hiking/hunting) the XTL is my E&E carrying my possibles pouch, extra ammo, spare socks, and emergency rations.

IMHO the XTL is the most versatile piece of Kifaru gear.

One side note: when the shoulder strap is used with the waist belt it is best employed over one shoulder and across the chest, not just around one shoulder as often pictured.

06-01-2006, 11:25 AM
I may have asked mel about this but I cant remember.

Has anyone tried docking an XTL to a TG platfrom?

06-04-2006, 12:46 AM
Match grade i was wondering the same thing myslef, i was looking how it's molle compatible on both, and have yet to order one so am kind of curious myself. The EMR, does that come w/ a Delta belt, cause i'm looking to get an EMR w/ an XLT and was wondering if i could mount the xlt to the hipbelt on the EMR??? Anyone know, or am i gonna have to modify it like INfalable did, or buy a Tg platform??

06-04-2006, 08:58 AM
Hey guys, we are considering developing an adaptor kit for the XTL that will allow you to attach any of our waistbelts (Omni, WrapTech, and Duplex) to the XTL for lumbar duty. We already have the design to build a prototype, and then do some testing and tweaking, but we want to make sure the interest is there before going any further. What do you all think?


06-04-2006, 11:19 AM
One vote for yes.


06-04-2006, 01:07 PM
Another vote for yes.

06-04-2006, 05:55 PM

I have another suggestion.

In the case of the Wraptech (not sure about the others), I reckon you could simply extend the PALs accross the back, from one side wing to the other then you could use the belt to carry a variety of MOLLE gear, Lock 'n' Loads, Dock 'n' Locks etc, with copmarative ease.

In that case a set of accessory shoulder straps (like anb old 'H' or 'H' harness) might be sueful.

Just a thought.

06-04-2006, 09:42 PM
Fireball, there are no plans at this time to offer any type of full wrap PALS belts. That's too close to "second line gear", and we're not ready to enter that arena yet. If and when we do start building second line gear, it would have to be something a little different than what's out there to make it worthwhile. For now, the plan is to keep building the best packs, and pack accessories that we possibly can. Also, we are entering the sleeping bag market in a big way, and that is where all the R&D is focused on at this time. The closest thing we have to second line gear, would be our Tailgunner Platform and Omni-Yoke. Maybe in a year or so from now, we will be ready to jump full force into the second line gear market. It should be very interesting when we do /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif .


06-04-2006, 10:23 PM
Ya i'm up for one,
but wouldn't it be easier to just sew pals webbing on the back side of the hip belts, i have really no experience w/ Kifaru gear yet but that would look like it would be easier, and more cost efficient. But thats just me.

06-04-2006, 10:29 PM
Wookie, that would be a negative.


06-05-2006, 12:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Mel:
Also, we are entering the sleeping bag market in a big way, and that is where all the R&amp;D is focused on at this time.
Mel </div></div>Don't suppose you could shed a little light onthe sleeping situation at the moment, in particular when we might expecyt to see an announcement of sorts?

With the belt thing, I understand re the not wanting to enter the 2nd line gear market, which I guess a modified belt would sort of do, almost by accident.

It was more in my mind that it was a more general and less sepcific approach to the same problem - though it would still probably need an adaptor for an XTL.

I'm a geek by trade, and we geeks like general solutons over specific ones - we can't help ourselves.