View Full Version : Looking for advice from gear gurus

04-04-2006, 07:41 AM
Hi folks,

I've all but decided to purchase a Zulu pack (OD) with the XTL option. I've been perusing this forum and notice discussion on a storm flap feature on the zulu that doesn't appear to be even mentioned in the product description. I'd really like to get my order perfect and not omit any feature choices that I 'might' have considered. Other than the features in play on the online order form, what possible considerations exists concerning the basic ruck...

I'd also love to hear from folks on what works and what doesn't regarding pouches, mounting options, etc.... I'm looking hard at the Kifaru 'back pouch' for mounting on the rear of the ruck.

FYI - Some of you may recognize my handle from other firearms related sites. I'm a 22 year veteran firefighter / medic / USAR specialist... I also plan to use the ruck for hunting and related activities.

Any and all advice appreciated



04-04-2006, 08:35 AM

The storm collar isn't an option, it's a feature, so you don't have to worry about selecting it.

I don't have the Zulu, so I couldn't say for certain what the best pouches and mounting options are, but in my opinion, the back of the ruck is the last place you want to put a pouch.

Do it if necessary, by all means. But make it your last choice. It moves the center of gravity further away from your body which will increase the felt weight and also off balance you a bit more.

Put pouches on the sides, top and bottom first, then, if you run out of room, put one on the back.

Oh yeah...welcome! /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

04-04-2006, 09:07 AM
I would definitly recommend getting an E&E pouch for the Zulu. I have a Zulu with a back pouch on each side and an E&E pouch on the back.

Here is a review I did.
zulu review (http://forums.kifaru.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001267)

04-04-2006, 10:02 AM
Good choice on the Zulu that is the pack that I use on my deployments. I second Medic16 on the E+E on the back of the pack, however I have two L+ pouches on the sides. I use a Med pod to place my TG1 (which is my aid bag) on top of my pack insead of a extreme lid.

04-04-2006, 10:06 AM
...what the hell? We have Medics signing up numerically? Where's Medic18?

04-04-2006, 10:21 AM
For me, completing medic school (UMDNJ) was probably the hardest thing I've ever done. It made college, fire-school, even FEMA USAR training seem like child's play. We become conditioned to respond to the call "medic" and the handle comes as second nature <g>

Some great input here guys. I really like the large bags on the sides, with the dock and lock, they could be modular to need. I'm just getting back into this game....9/11 kicked my butt for several years....

Hanzo - keeping weight centered is another great BTDT gem, thanks!

04-04-2006, 01:44 PM
Is there a medic18 out there? or medic15 for that matter?

04-04-2006, 02:24 PM
+1 more on the E&amp;E, docked &amp; locked to your Zulu.

You will find yourself using the E&amp;E as a stand-alone/satellite waaay more than you planned.

The E&amp;E carries great, fully loaded or not, IBA or not. PALS everywhere it's needed.

Below is a pic of my E&amp;E with "accessories:"


On the L&amp;R are Spec-Ops X4 Mag pouches. Sometimes 8x M4 Mags, sometimes Oakleys in hard case and my iPod.

In the front is the SOE(pre-drama) SAW/Dump pouch. Sometimes a 200 RD drum, sometimes a paperback, a digicam and a couple bags of peanut M&amp;Ms.

Get out of the truck and fight is the new guidance so lots more ammo these days. Substitute med supplies if you're a non-combatant medic.

Main compartment is always work stuff (leader book, convoy book, notebook) and double-bagged hygiene gear, plus Axe, for those "not so fresh" weeks. Shower scrubby is for you, Nate Dawg!


If there's sand&amp;sun in your future the you'll keep the Zulu racked or trunked and tuck the E&amp;E up front.

As you can see the possibilities are endless.

Nathan C
04-04-2006, 02:51 PM
I didn't need Axe, I used St. Ives Vanilla body wash, chicks diggin it /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif

Oh and I was able to get some pics of my ICE belt with IBA, except it's an XL and I wear a M. Surprisingly it still fit well. I'll post on my thread if you still wanna see them.-Update, posted in ACU Express thread.

04-04-2006, 05:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by straps:
Substitute med supplies if you're a non-combatant medic.
</div></div>What in the world is a non-combatant medic?

04-05-2006, 01:39 AM
Non-combatant Medic: One who carries a firearm in combat for the sole purpose of defending himself and/or his patient(s). Does not participate in offensive combat operations. Does not carry munitions that sustain offensive combat operations.

Explained more fully below:


The Marines task the Navy for Chaplains and Medics because every Marine is a combatant. Other units in other branches apply variations on the theme.

Now how did this thread start? Oh yeah, my personal statement on the utility of the E&amp;E pouch. Good for meds, good for munitions, good for chillin'. Advise the purchase of an E&amp;E pouch over a back pouch.

Dan M
04-05-2006, 05:26 AM
Some pics of my old Zulu

This pack wore well and easily handled about 50-60lbs. After that, you start wishuing for the "shoulder lift" that you get with stays longer than 19".

04-06-2006, 05:24 PM
medicjim -

Good advice on set-up. You might also want to look at Tactical Tailor's gear for medics. It's inexpensive because they make it so and will last through several deployments. My entire platoon of Scouts used their gear pre-deployment, and by the time we came home pretty much our whole battalion was sold on them. It's good stuff. <www.tacticaltailor.com>

- Tim