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ThePrepared_com
03-09-2006, 08:45 AM
Anyone using one of these on their packs? I'm thinking it would be perfect on the outside of the Scout I have coming. Looks like it would make a great addition to a EDC pack.

http://stores.skipjack.com/emdomusa/Detail.bok?no=18

kgb1024
03-09-2006, 10:18 AM
I have one of these, I ordered it about a week after my marauder, but I can't really tell you how it is with the pack, as I am still in the waiting to recieve club. I cant wait. http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f371/kgb1024/Emdom/DSC00425.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f371/kgb1024/Emdom/DSC00426.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f371/kgb1024/Emdom/DSC00427.jpg
Sat. is 4 weeks. can't be much longer now!! /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

ThePrepared_com
03-09-2006, 11:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by kgb1024:
I have one of these, I ordered it about a week after my marauder, but I can't really tell you how it is with the pack, as I am still in the waiting to recieve club. I cant wait. http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f371/kgb1024/Emdom/DSC00425.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f371/kgb1024/Emdom/DSC00426.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f371/kgb1024/Emdom/DSC00427.jpg
Sat. is 4 weeks. can't be much longer now!! /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif </div></div>Sounds like we ordered about the same time. My Scout should be along soon. You're going to love your Marauder! I have been carrying mine everyday for 2 months and love it more everyday.

That Emdom pouch looks nice. I checked and they are backordered right now. I'm waiting on an email with aprox date.

panzertroop
03-09-2006, 11:45 AM
maybe a little odd on a scout but a Marauder no problem!

Chucker
03-09-2006, 12:21 PM
+1 on Marauder.

I just got the regular WL (not fattie) in MC. If you're just asking about how it would fit on a Scout, I can check it out tonight. I have it on my Pointman right now.

ThePrepared_com
03-09-2006, 01:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Chucker:
+1 on Marauder.

I just got the regular WL (not fattie) in MC. If you're just asking about how it would fit on a Scout, I can check it out tonight. I have it on my Pointman right now. </div></div>If you could check the fit to the Scout I would greatly appreciate it!

Nathan C
03-09-2006, 02:44 PM
It'll fit on the scout but it'll be under your compression straps, making a little bit of a pain to open. It takes up 8 PALS plus a little extra on each side. So Marauder and old-school Zulu/EMR lids it's the perfect size.

Mel
03-09-2006, 04:50 PM
The trick with the Scout compression straps, is to run them up under the PALS channels. This way the Emdom pouch fits over the compression straps, and you don't have to click them out to get into the Emdom. Also, some of you might not know that the female SR buckles on the Scout compression straps are slotted, so you can put them on the lid tab loops if you want. I just mounted my Emdom 3" wide load on my Scout, and it looks good on there. I attached it to the bottom 3 rows of PALS, and used channels 1,3,6,and 8. Very solid and secure mount. I have the Scout compression straps running behind the Emdom pouch. By the way, the Emdom wide load also works well on the Pointman top lid.

Mel

tree_entz
03-10-2006, 04:43 AM
How would you guys rate this thing compared to the Spec ops Packrat? Maybe not fair to compare.
What i'm getting at is i'm looking for a pouch that will act as an organizer and a place for a CCW. Something to throw in a day pack, etc.

For that matter, is anyone carrying in their Zulu pack? Was wondering if there was a good place in there.

Thanks in advance

ThePrepared_com
03-10-2006, 05:34 AM
Thanks for testing that out for me guys. I'm thinking the Scout with Emdom pack attached will make a nice EDC.

Chucker
03-10-2006, 06:46 AM
Well, I knew someone would beat me to it but I've got PICTURES. OK, I'm not MM but you'll get the idea:

Naked Scout:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Chuck45/Liter%20Plus/Barescout.jpg

WideLoad, high mount (top row of PALS):
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Chuck45/Liter%20Plus/WLhigh.jpg

WideLoad, high mount using channel 1 &amp; 6:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Chuck45/Liter%20Plus/Highmalic6.jpg

WideLoad, low mount (channels 1 &amp; 8):
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Chuck45/Liter%20Plus/WLlow.jpg

WideLoad, low mount, right:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Chuck45/Liter%20Plus/WLlowright.jpg

WideLoad, low mount, front. Shows compression straps under WideLoad:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/Chuck45/Liter%20Plus/WLlowfront.jpg
The nice thing about the WL is that it has really wide channels in the back for mounting. It was pretty easy to get the compression straps of the Scout underneath the WL using MALICE in channels 1 &amp; 8 like Mel mentions. You can mount this pouch either high up on the top row or low like in the pics or somewhere in between. There seems to be plenty of room on either side to mount other pouches. In the pics you can see my LiterPlus pouch mounted to the right side of the Scout. I've 'skipped a channel' on the LP so it takes up 3 rows on the Scout in this pic.

ThePrepared_com
03-10-2006, 07:20 AM
Very cool, thanks for taking the time to take the pictures and post them.

DiabloDawg
03-10-2006, 04:35 PM
It works great as shown above. I used it in Iraq to organize all my small stuff.

imported_Scott Cunningham
03-10-2006, 07:30 PM
On a Marauder

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/ScottCunningham/Gun%20stuff/MarauderMods5.jpg

ropeman
03-11-2006, 10:33 AM
I use one on the lid of my Pointman as a way to organise all those small but essential things. Fits perfectly and a really good company to deal with.

imported_Scott Cunningham
03-11-2006, 03:40 PM
As you can see on my pic is is labeled as 3", but seems a bit narrower. The inside is well arranged with pouches and a zippered pocket. The zippers open all the way down the sides, and it has retention cords on the sides so it can open like a tray(rather than flopping all the way down). The downside is that it uses the small toothed zipper rather than a large toothed zipper (tendency to jam a bit when covered in dirt).

Its closest Kifaru product is the Claymore (that I have hooked up below it). The Clymore is superbly built, and holds a lot more (even thought its specified size is very similar to the Emdom bag). It has the heavy duty zipper that I prefer. Its one disadvantage is that its zipper on the top only goes to the edges of the pouch, so some things are tough to stuff into it, or pull out when it is fully packed.

ThePrepared_com
03-11-2006, 08:52 PM
I dont suppose anyone has a picture of the Claymore on the Scout?

Hanzo
03-11-2006, 10:51 PM
I am placing an order for a SORD Command panel which is very similar, but more shallow and designed more for navigation which is what I'll use it for on a chest rig.

I wish they weren't so far away cause I'm really liking the SORD gear.

Nathan C
03-12-2006, 08:18 AM
How do you figure the Aussie $'s anyways?

Hanzo
03-12-2006, 08:46 AM
I pulled up a conversion table awhile back, but I think you multiplied it by around .72% or something like that.

Nathan C
03-12-2006, 09:19 AM
I don't like all the math :p What is $20? Like 18?

Hanzo
03-12-2006, 09:20 AM
Think three quarters of the Aussie value. So $20 would be about $15US

fireballxl5
03-12-2006, 05:09 PM
Ecahnge Rates/Postage

$1USD buy about $1.35AUD.

These are the calcualtors I use to convert AUD/USD:

http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html
http://www.commbank.com.au/tools/fxcalc.htm

The latter is one of Australia's largest banks.
I'm not sure about the former.

It's best to croess check with a coupel of calcualtors because the rate varies from bank to bank, company to cpmpany etc.

The very best choice is the organisation you are going to make payment through, eg your credit card company or apypal, whatever but at it is not always easy to find their rate.

So I usually use the above two sites and if they are similar I average them.

At the time of this post approx $0.74USD buys $1AUD

It has only varied a couple of cents each way over the last month and ahlf or so where I have made a lot of US purchases, though forex rates can change very quickly, so it pays to check.

Also you may not be aware but the US and Australia has a free trade agreement.

For us Aussies that has been very good as we now pay no duty on items manufactured in US if they arrive in lots of less than $1000AUD value.

I assume that Aussie imports to thew US enjoy similar exemptions, but obviously you need to check with the appropriate USG agency.

As for distance, when I recieved half of my Kifaru order it took 1 week to get here from the time if was posted.

I see no reason that stuff to the US should take any longer from the time they are sent.

Here are some URLs to Australia Post (Out national post office).
The last one is an AustraliaPost Express Courier International page which includes a calculator:

http://www.australiapost.com.au/
http://www.australiapost.com.au/BCP/0,1080,CH4195%257EMO19,00.html
http://www.auspost.com.au/eci/main.html

Obviously SORD will be able to give you better details for any particular merchandise you wish to order, but some of these pages should give you indicative costs and service levels assuming that SORD use Australia Post (which they do nationally).


On the subject if SORD gear, I recently bought one of their Hostage Rescue Pouches and was very happy with the quality etc.
I intend to build a series of internal organiser panels (elestic loops, mesh pockets, etc) for it.

I also have my eye on one of the Command Panels, which I intend to use with one of their Military Free Fall chest platforms when doing civvy outdoor activities. (MiliaryMorons)have a write up on these on their site.

ThePrepared_com
03-13-2006, 07:21 AM
I was just browsing the Kifaru site and was taking a closer look at the Stash-It. Kifaru needs to make a bigger Stash-It organizer type pouch like the Emdom. With the number of people who are using their packs as a EDC I think they would sell very well.

fireballxl5
03-13-2006, 09:46 AM
Prepared:

Yes, I was looking at the Stash-It ( I see why they put the '-' in - the boards don't like "Sta****") and my conclusion was too small and too expensive (Sorry Kif guys!) for it's utility.

I'm also looking for something that can go on my belt and carry most of the stuff I need during a day out bush, without having to take off and runmage through my pack/pockets.

For me that would be:
map
compass
GPS (if I owned one of those new fangled thinga-ma-bobs)
protractor
comms (ie handheld radio or cell phone)
pencil
notebook
compact binos
snacks/lunch
small torch
small knife/multitool
sunscreen
bug juice
chap stick
meds
medical tape/blister kit
KFS (maybe)
water filter/steri tabs(maybe)

ie far too much for a Stash It.

Obviously military guys would carry this stuff in their chest rig/webbing, but I'm not military and I think a whole lot of other people here aren't too.
And though I don't mind weraing military LBE, it is not as efficient imo as just wearing a big ass pack, and it does get you lots of odd looks, which these days (age and maturity *cough*) I try to avoid.

On the other side of the coin, Emdom and lots of other companies make the wide load and similar pouches, but don't make bombproof packs.

Kifaru make bomproof packs and accesories pouches but don't do LBE type pouches.

Both markets are covered so perhaps we should just be happy that our needs can be met by organisations that are specilalists in their fields rather than generalists.
:-)

The sad fact is the more general an organisation becomes, the less perfect (for a specialist niches) the products become.

Which is I guess why we are here buying Kifaru and Emdom, instead of accepting what fits average people averagely and does and average job in average situations, from our local outfitters or quartermaster's store.

:-)

Hanzo
03-13-2006, 10:12 AM
Fireball,

I'm doing the same thing as far as the MFF rig go. I'm going to mount the commander panel to it and then a first aid kit, compass and a few pistol mags to the front of the commander panel.

I was going to go with the emdom pouch but by the time I attached the first aid kit, it would've hung off my chest by 6"+ and that was far from ideal.

Oh, and for anyone interested, I just heard back that the commander panel is back ordered for a few weeks.

murphquake
03-13-2006, 05:37 PM
Glad to see everyone likes them. I designed it based around the nifty bottom front pouch on the CamelBak BFM I somehow got for free about 3 years ago. I ended up carrying my EMS equipment in there when I wasn't working (stethoscope, surefire, multitool, gloves, field guide, pens etc) and realized how useful the general design was. But being a MOLLE Master I needed a modular PI version... I added pals to the front, maxed out the size to correspond to the common PALS dimensions, PALSd the back, added straps to the side so it would stay shut if the zipper worked open and could be part zipped out so it wouldn't flop open and drop your stuff, put pals on the bottom for attaching long slim items like knives, flashlights or batons, put D rings on back for slinging, added a slot pocket behind the opentop mesh pouches, added elastic loops to the floor to secure things where I used to keep my surefire and multitool end to end, put in a tie down loop and added a cord to keep the pouch from opening and flopping straight down - user adjustable of course... can also use it to cinch up the open pouch quickly (I even considered making the cordloc with a retaining band to maintain it's position for that)... finally a velcro strip in front for patches and ID and it was good to go... until the first prototype came in from the factory and was twice as wide as I'd intended... when my former partner inked the design drawings he'd made me do in pencil he changed a 3 to a 6 and the Fattie WL was born... nothing major to it other than an extra row of elastic and pals at the bottom and a lot more room... I like it a lot as a CLS sized aidbag/pouch... I'm glad to see they're getting the use I intended.
-bill

fireballxl5
03-13-2006, 11:02 PM
Bill:

With due respect, I'll like'em even more when you have MC in stock.
:-)

Chucker
03-14-2006, 06:51 AM
Hey Murph! You're still alive! Good to hear from you. Email sent.

murphquake
03-17-2006, 05:48 AM
Fireball,
Sorry, I'm not with the company anymore. If I could sew I'd hook ya up though.

Chuckles,
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-bill