View Full Version : ECR 08 recap....

02-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Just getting back in from dropping Patrick and Ozark off at the airport.

Whatta blast! It was great to see all my old friends and I enjoyed meeting new ones.

I'll chime in more later, but thought getting a thread started was in order. I was camera-less this year, so you fellas will have to pick up the slack for me.

I hope everyone finds their way home safely with the weather.

02-17-2008, 03:09 PM
Glad you're back from shuttling.

The scotch was Lagavulin for the guys who asked. Get the 16yr; there's nothing notable with the others they've made.

Scott, we oughta pass out awards so you could get one for the food/cider/laughs you brought.

Lot's of good bellie-laughs!!

Meeting Ozark Rambler was a real highlight for me! Dan's as good a guy as anyone gets to meet, and he was really free about sharing lot's of knowledge. I learned a ton this year and validated a bunch of my own thoughts.

I still think Tierce ate the rice.....

Ben, I found an ice screw on the way out; did you lose any?

Dave R.
02-17-2008, 05:35 PM
....how did I miss that Scotch? My favorite drink in the whole wide world? Copper, don't you like me anymore? /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

02-18-2008, 05:48 AM
You guys weren't too busy sippin' to take some photos I hope.....

Dave R.
02-18-2008, 05:48 AM
...there once was a man with a hand gun
...who went to the Rondy to have fun
...his limp wrist was cured
...the teasing ignored
...and he left with the skills he won.

Thanks all for the advice and demonstrating with my CZ!

PA Scott
02-18-2008, 06:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Smokepole</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys weren't too busy sippin' to take some photos I hope..... </div></div>

Here you go, bro....

Copper, Ozark Rambler, and Andy NH in front of Dan's 8 man
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Ken & Dave R warming up the archery range
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Tierce, Ken in the background, Dave R and Andy NH working out the kinks in the 9mm CZ. Talk about "kinky", turns out the prob was limp wrist syndrome (sorry Dave -- couldn't resist after you mentioned it).
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Finally shooting sweet
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Tierce getting ready on the MA 2000. Possibly the 1st time he shot a scoped rifle. One of the many cherries Tierce lost over the course of the ECR (although he denies being the one who lost the rice & red peppers outside the cabin).
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Dave R on the CZ .22 while Copper flings lead with Andy's sweet shooting Savage .308
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We had an awful time prying that left-hand .308 out of Copper's hands
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Jeremy with the "sniper rifle", the .22 camp gun that strikes terror into the heart of red squirrels throughout the Daks.
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Andy NH with the .22 CZ. I'll tell you what... the boy can SHOOT!
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Like I said, Copper's not too happy with that left-handed Savage, is he?
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Our 16 man home-away-from-home with Dan's 8 man behind it.
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Patrick cracking up after another of Jeremy's "full action" hunting tales. Ken's brother, a wood-splitting machine of a man, is next to Jeremy
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Dave R with a "thumbs up" for comfortably surviving our first of two -10 degree nights.
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Camp Muga Pines
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Walking down from the cabin to the tipi village
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One of the many bull sessions on hunting/gear/scotch/cider, etc.
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Patrick getting ready to spray some 9mm lead. In case you're wondering what he's wearing, let's just say you're in for a treat. The new Kifaru parkas/jackets/pants are immaculately cut climashield products that everyone got to try. Simply the best outer wear I've ever run across. Hopefully, some of our other ECR field testers will chime in with their reviews on these fine products.
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Dave R with the 9mm and the new Kifaru pants.
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Woods Walker & Chainsaw supervising the destruction of yet another empty can by a hail of 9mm bullets.
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Patrick & Dave R. The "pepper" on the ground near Patrick is 9mm brass.
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Ken, Adrian & son. The finest ECR hosts you could ask for. Adrian made enough lasagna to feed us for a week and we demolished it in a night.
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Patrick & PA Scott
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BTW - if anyone wants to download a pic or two, full size photos are at http://community.webshots.com/album/562526745

Dave R.
02-18-2008, 07:15 PM
Scott...those pics are GREAT! Thanks...you better have that one with you and Patrick framed!

02-18-2008, 07:28 PM
Scott has brought absolutely spectacular treats to every rondy.

Mrs. G is handily the finest cook any guy could ask for! Her food is to die for!

We can't do enough to thank Ken & family for supporting these trips.

02-18-2008, 07:43 PM
DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!

I got this great shirt with a great hood from Icebreaker. I didn't realize I look like some A-Hole from the Willy-Wonka factory /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

02-19-2008, 05:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: copper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Ben, I found an ice screw on the way out; did you lose any? </div></div>
Yuk, yuk Copper; Very funny /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif . No, although some have wondered if I didn't have a few "loose screws", I didn't drop any at the ECR. But thanks for thinking of me.

02-19-2008, 08:15 AM
Another fine ECR!

It was a pleasure to meet all the new folks who attended and old Kifaru friends as well.

Hope to see everyone who couldn't make it at next years rondy....

Awesome pics Scott!

Along with your homemade cheese and incredible smoked fish recipe.

Wish I could have stayed longer....will have to try and get there early next year.

02-19-2008, 08:19 AM
The smoked catfish has pretty much become my favorite and I'm going to start doing it at home with Scott's brine recipe. The Smoked Pheasant is right behind it.

2Elk was certainly missed. Greg, glad you pulled it off!

02-19-2008, 08:22 AM
Hey Ken, did you lose any arrows in the snow??? /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

02-19-2008, 08:34 AM
Good to see you again Copper!

Hope 2Elk and William make it next year.
Did Ralph, Ksnake & Woodland Girl or anyone else get there after I left?

Between weather and personal/family obligations the last two years seemed a little tough for many....maybe next year will be better for everyone and we'll have another full house /\ again.


As usual, a BIG thanks to Ken, Johnny and Patrick for making this happen!

You folks work really hard at putting this together and it shows!

Dave R.
02-19-2008, 10:04 AM
Sawtooth...I did with my 25 pounder... We Found it though...

PA Scott
02-19-2008, 10:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: copper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The smoked catfish has pretty much become my favorite and I'm going to start doing it at home with Scott's brine recipe. </div></div>

Smoked Fish

3 qts water
2 cups real maple syrup
1 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup salt
1 tablespoon garlic powder
3 bay leaves

Rinse fillets and set them aside. Mix ingredients in a large glass bowl and stir until everything is dissolved (except the bay leaves, of course). Add fillets to the brine, cover, and place in the fridge. Overnight gives acceptable results, but I prefer to let them stand for a bit. Up to 3 days is OK. Smoke over hickory for 2.5 hours at 200 degrees.

Smoked Cheese

I use Cooper Sharp Cheese & buy it 5 pounds at a time. Cut the cheese into 1" thick bricks and wrap in cheese cloth. Smoke over hickory for 1.5 to 2 hours. Be sure to let the cheese cool completely before trying to remove the cheese cloth. Cut into slices and devour.


PA Scott

02-19-2008, 11:14 AM
Sawtooth, They had some archery stuff going on too? You know more about the rondy than I do. Darn, wish I could have stayed longer.

02-19-2008, 02:46 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sawtooth</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Ken, did you lose any arrows in the snow??? /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif </div></div>

Nope...they were Daves arrows... /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

We did have a survival situation though...lol...also learned that carmel is no laughing matter when a stack robber is near.

I did miss the bayonet charge...anyone catch that on film?

02-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Scott, ever try smoked salt? Make a bag of 6-8 layers of cheescloth, pour 1/2 lb of salt in the middle and tie up hobo style. Dip in water for a few seconds and hang in smoke for an hour or so. Salt will be hardened, so whack with a mallet to break it up again. Use anywhere you would like a smoke flavor.

02-19-2008, 03:43 PM
I'm going to do a cornish game hen in that recipe. Not pheasant; but might be good.

Ed C
02-19-2008, 04:40 PM
Looks like a good time was had by all! I often wondered why you guys put this on in the dead of winter? I thought maybe it was an eastern thing and a guy with common sense wouldn't understand /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif But I didn't see no frowns so way to go!

02-19-2008, 05:10 PM
Ed C, There is at least 1 good logical reason.

And that's just to see how hot we can get that Artic Stove pipe!

02-19-2008, 05:33 PM
Well I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said, but, I had an absolute fantastic time! Weather was perfect, food was outstanding, and the company was splendid.

Patrick as always was a fine fellow and continues to amaze me with his genius.

Ken is about as good a guy as you would care to meet. I owe him mucho thanks for all he went through to get me and my gear out to NY and back. He has a fine family and I want to thank them for allowing me into their home.

Ken, if there is ever anything I can do for you please don't hesitate to ask.

Copper, what can I say, you are absolutely hilarious. Between you and the other Muga Pines residents I had the mother of all ab workouts. Keep in touch.

PA Scott, thanks for the cider and great eats. I feel like I should send you a check for the enormous amount of your food and drink I consumed.

To all the others, thanks for a bunch of wonderful memories, I'll continue to savor them for a long while. Perhaps I can make it out again, although I doubt my kids let me go alone again!

You eastern guys need to make it out to the CO rondy, you will have a great time there. The Co guys are great folks, and will make you feel right at home.


Woods Walker
02-19-2008, 07:27 PM
Here I am getting ready to pulk in. Ken found me Ĺ way and I tossed my gear into his snowmobile sled. Ken was a great host.



Deep snow. Oh man I have got to get some Snow pins.


Some shelter photos.

Kenís nice ST.


Some tipis.




My 4-man. The worse pitch ever. But was glad for Copper, Ken and Dave for the help digging out the darn hole.


Copperís tent.


A nice looking Kifaru MC pack.


Scott in his most excellent MOB.


Dave pondering the harsh reality of limp wristing when shooting. /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif


Some shooting on the firing line. I packed in about 1100 rounds and went home with nearly nothing.


The take down .22 cal. A Russian SKS and 9mm storm.



A pack of snowmobiles.


The cabin with the scary out house. I elected to answer natureís call in the woods on the last day. I hope Ken does not step in it. /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif


Drying my socks on the clothes line.


Candle lantern worked great. Offered all night light and a little heat to take the bite out of the -10 degree night.


The Downmat turned on me big time. Lost all of its air and the result was a survival situation. /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif I am going to Email OR and ask them to repair the thing. I can't see why or how it failed. /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif


Had a great time. I used some of the new Kifaru clothing and was impressed. Truly innovative stuff. Darn near air weight. The XXL size is perfect for bigger guys.

02-20-2008, 07:44 AM
Hi fellows - you can check out Patrick's videos of this Rondy on his blog... cheers! Maggie

02-21-2008, 03:30 PM
I've been busy all week with work + Army, but I'm glad to see that others took pictures, and I figured that I ought to give thanks where it's due.

First off, a big thanks to Ken for not only hosting us (and to Adrian for that wonderful lasagna), but also doing most of the grunt work to coordinate everything.

Dave: Thanks for the chance to test out the 8 man, and also letting me try my hand at archery. Your flintlock was fantastic.
Good job overcoming that limp wrist (DADT /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif )

Copper: You almost had me fooled into thinking you were a crusty old bastard. Thanks a lot for the mat; if I'd known how generous you were being I would have had to refuse. I'll put it to good use.

PA Scott: Your cider and the many delicacies were much appreciated. Hope you can bring your son(s) next year, so I'm not the only young'un /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Andy: Thanks for the ride, the food, and the company. I said it before, but I hope I get a PSG like you.

Patrick: It was an honor to meet you, and we all owe you thanks, not just for making great gear, but for providing the foundation for such a fantastic community.

To everyone else, thanks for the opportunity to shoot your guns, and of course, for the chance to share your company. If I can find a way to get some leave next Feb, I can't think of a better group of guys to spend it with.

PA Scott
02-22-2008, 05:01 AM

Glad you enjoyed yourself, hopefully as much as we enjoyed having you at the ECR.

BTW -- copper is a crusty old bastard; don't let him fool you.

PA Scott

William Clunie
02-22-2008, 03:43 PM
Looks like I missed a good one for sure. Nice photos and video! I don't even know what the limp-wrist thing was about, but I could hardly stop from laughing at the photo of DaveR contemplating. Wish I could have been there. NEXT YEAR.

William Clunie

Dave R.
02-22-2008, 04:41 PM
Thanks Will...... /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

02-22-2008, 05:54 PM
Looks like a great time was had by all! Thanks for the recap guys. Sorry I missed it. Hopefully things will work out for next year.

PA Scott
02-25-2008, 10:13 AM

We had a great time, but we missed you guys a lot. We kept looking to see if you would be coming in as the weekend progressed. ECR just isn't the same without your sterling company & various delicacies. Hope to see you both again next year.

PA Scott

BTW -- it wasn't the banjo that kept you away, was it? /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

02-25-2008, 05:56 PM
No way man. The banjo is all good /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Mushrooms were a bust this year anyway. Weather was weird, too dry. Didn't get one hen!

02-25-2008, 06:04 PM
We wouldn't have run you out for a lack of mushrooms...lol...

Hopefully you two can make it out next year....we did miss ya....

03-25-2008, 12:48 PM
Patrick- Dont know if you'll ever come across this post, if you do, I have a quick question for you. Are you sporting RailRiders? I've seen/heard very little of these, and their website doesnt show a real picture of their pants. I was thinking of ordering a pair, but was hoping to gain a little more info before I did so. Thanks, Josh

03-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Hello Josh,

I am about to begin packing for a multi-day Ramble testing several project items. Caught this just in time!

Yes, I use RR pants and shirts. I particularly like their featherweight summer wear. Adventure khakis and I forget the name for the shirts. Tough, very light, dry fast...good stuff.

See y'all in a few days!

T&S Manufacturing
03-25-2008, 07:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ken</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We wouldn't have run you out for a lack of mushrooms...</div></div>What's the meaning of this? What about certain colored toads? Are they part of the equation also? Inquiring minds want to know /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif

03-25-2008, 07:35 PM
Looks like I missed a good one. I made the right choice staying home though. I just got home today I have been gone since the ECR.


03-26-2008, 07:03 PM
Hopefully we will catch you next year Doug.

PA Scott
03-27-2008, 07:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T&S Manufacturing</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ken</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We wouldn't have run you out for a lack of mushrooms...</div></div>What's the meaning of this? What about certain colored toads? Are they part of the equation also? Inquiring minds want to know /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif </div></div>

Hen-of-the-Woods fried in butter done over a woodstove were a favorite at the '07 Rondy.

Mystical experiences at the ECR were generally limited to sleeping under the stars.

Just thought you'd like to know.

PA Scott

03-27-2008, 07:38 AM
Patrick- Just wanted to thank you for such a quick response, I know you probably get a million silly questions like mine all the time...
That's the first real picture I've seen of the RR pants, they look good. Also nice to hear a postive review from sombody that is using them. I think I'll have to order a pair eventually, I was looking at the Versa-tac light pants. Have fun on your ramble.... Josh

Woods Walker
03-28-2008, 06:34 PM
Good news OR sent me a new downmat 9dlx. The pump sack sure seems better. Going to take it out for a spin this weekend.

03-28-2008, 06:40 PM
Didn't try the new pillow/pump yet?...

03-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Patrick and crew....

Thanks for the hat!...got it yesterday...

Woods Walker
03-30-2008, 06:03 PM
No not yet. I tested out the new stuff sack pump and it seemed to work ok. Leaked some when the Downmat was almost full but was easier to pump. They also did a few design changes with the mat itself.


Thanks for the 07 and 08 hats. /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

03-31-2008, 07:13 AM
I got my '08 NER hat today.

Thank you!

04-04-2008, 03:06 PM
Same here,

To Patrick and the entire Kifaru staff....

Thank You for another ECR hat!