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eggroll
05-13-2003, 10:02 AM
Patrick,

I don't know if you have received my package. Its a

small thank you for the time earlier this month when

Razor, myself and Thewolverine visited.

Anyhow, it is a "cold-weather" ration pack - in the

form of two MRE sized envelopes encompassing a

breakfast and dinner menu. While the same physical

size as an MRE, these units do pack considerably more

foodstuffs, thus higher calorie counts for

mountain/cold weather operations. Unlike MRES which

have entrees that are fully hydrated and weigh about

8ozs a serving, CWR entrees are dehydrated, IIRC the

entress themselves are produced by the Mountain House

company. When fully hydrated provide anywhere from

16-24 ounces of entree. Aside from some CWR-specific

items, most of the other components are off-the-shelf

MRE components. The full list of the ration contents

can be viewed on the outside of the envelope.

Another interesting bit, is that there is another

ration variant which is even rarer than CWRs and those

are LRP rations, long range patrol rations. When

found, they come in tan envelopes similar to MRES

replete with brown text and graphics, however they do

read Long Range Patrol ration. These too have

dehydrated entrees, in fact the same entrees as the

CWRs, just all in tan/khaki.... or for those som

inclined Coyote colored wrapping. These packs weigh

about a pound.

Anyhow, I figured you might get a kick out that. I

forgot which meal pack I sent you, but the general

consensus is that these are fairly tasty.

They come in cases of 6 meal packs - Spaghetti, Chili,

Beef Stew, Chicken Stew, Chicken Ala King, Chicken and

Rice entrees.

According to the information posted on the web, the

CWR are now being 'phased' out by MCW/LRPs which is

basically an expanded menu offering ration offering.

Instead of having two distinct supply chains, why not

integrate them both. So these are referred to as

MCW/LRP rations. I am on the lookout for these now.

Cheers and thanks again for an enjoyable day.

Patrick
05-14-2003, 06:35 AM
Egg--

I got 'em!!! Thanks a lot, I'm honored you remembered our discussion on this stuff. Each packet weighs just shy of a pound and a half. Looks like there's enough grub in these things to stuff a hungry wolverine (sorry Michael). They're bulky, tho. I still wonder how y'all manage to tote very many of the dang things on an "extended" mission without needing, well, one of our EMR's!

Razor
05-14-2003, 08:00 AM
If resupply isn't an option, Patrick, you simply eat less (1/day or less) and live with the consequences. /images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

eggroll
05-14-2003, 02:29 PM
I think I pack 'enough' to spare the excess days :-)

Patrick, there is a trend now to strip out meal components so that users would carry only essentials and reduce the amount of used space for storage. I have stripped out three meal packs and repacked them into a gallon freezer ziplocs. I have three meals in less space than one envelope.

It is a good way to break-in new hikers though... make them hump unnecessary weight.

RangerBobMedic
05-14-2003, 08:36 PM
Just wanted to introduce myself, I am an ex-army medic living here in CO and am looking to start up a wilderness survival/first aid school. Anyone interested? BTW I am looking at the TT First Responder Bag - When I get it at the end of this month I will give you a "first blush" eval. for those interested. I am also looking at investing in the Navigator as my primary pack. With pockets it will do everything I need. I will close by saying THANK YOU ETERNALLY to all fellow vets and those still serving. FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!

eggroll
05-17-2003, 08:17 PM
http://www.dt-group.com/gear/raid2.jpg

you mean something like this?

RangerBobMedic
05-18-2003, 07:58 PM
Yeah, that's pretty close although the aid-bag would go on the front bottom. EGG, what is your inventory & placement in the bag? That way I can get an idea of how it can be set up best for my needs and how much stuff I can cram into it.

Thanks

Also, what is your setup in the RAID pack & the other pockets (I always think it is good to see the others guys logic about gear setup)?

Razor
05-19-2003, 07:15 AM
RgrBob,

The TT First Responder Bag holds about as much as the issue M3 bag.

eggroll
05-19-2003, 08:24 AM
There it is - that image was to demonstrate that it could attach to the RAID via FX buckles already on the FRB and RAID.

Nominally it would be on the bottom front of my Marauder.

RangerBobMedic
05-19-2003, 07:15 PM
I meant inside the pockets, as I am a fan of smaller packs and the cooler, lighter, gear that one can use as succesfully, or better than regular gear with the proper knowledge. I.E. using an MSR Dragonfly instead of a Coleman 2 burner camp stove (not saying it doesn't have its place, though) or using that Para Poncho instead of three different pieces of gear. I've always believed that the more knowledge you carry in your head the less gear you have to carry on your back. OK I hope I got my point across.

Thanks for listening,
RBM