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Gizzmo
06-25-2007, 11:27 AM
The Pocket Cooker is back !

http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com

#12028 $12.95

I had been looking for one for some time now. I just had 2 come in today.

Ksnake
06-25-2007, 11:45 AM
I have one of those and love it! I prefer them over anything that uses fuel, including pepsi can stoves, because I hate packing fuel and worrying about running out. I also like them better than any other hobo stove since they fold up. I just wish they made a lighter version of it.

They have been hard to find, thanks for the link!

weekend warrior
06-25-2007, 12:04 PM
Looks cool but I've never seen one up close. At almost twice the weight how does this compare with a trailstove? (http://www.trailstove.com/)
I'd like to have something foolproof for a BOB or 72 hour kit and this just might fit the bill.

Bushcraft
06-25-2007, 01:29 PM
Ummm...the pocket cooker weighs two pounds?!?!?...egad, that's heavier than my sleeping bag.

Why not just use a Esbit Stove platform at mere ounces, without the fuel tabs?

http://images.rei.com/media/653343Lrg.jpg

JAK
06-25-2007, 03:01 PM
I like that type of stainless mug.
Haven't been able to find another.

Ksnake
06-25-2007, 04:25 PM
2lbs? Hmmm... must be a typo. Mine only weighs 1lb. Or maybe I have something different. Looks the same tho.

Anyway, this thing is designed to burn debris (it works with pinecones, twigs, etc) and it channels the heat towards the pot.

Have you ever tried lighting a fire on an Esbit Stove? I'd be interested to know how it works out. I would think a light weight grate on a couple rocks would work better, but still not as efficient as the hobo style stove.

Ken
06-25-2007, 05:10 PM
...just thinking aloud here...What about a somewhat thin piece of stainless rolled up to form a base undeneath one of the Purcell trench grates? A few well placed holes would allow for easy feeding and the total weight/packsize would be ideal...

circles
06-25-2007, 05:30 PM
Sportsmans Guide seems to advertise them all the time. I never thought to get one because they always seem either too heavy or too small depending on what I was doing. How much do they actually weigh?

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=288270

Circles

5x5
06-25-2007, 06:19 PM
nimbelwill titanium stove (http://www.thru-hiker.com/workshop.asp?subcat=2&cid=9)

I might try making one of these. It should come in at less than 5oz. -Ian

Gizzmo
06-26-2007, 04:50 AM
I don't have a scale. The advertised weight is 2lbs. It feels close to it.
I don't know how much I will pack it. I wanted one for a kit I'm making up to keep in my truck.
I ordered a extra one because they had been so hard to find.
I have a couple of spots that I go to where it would be easy to use natural fuel, and not carry a regular stove. Perfect when it's too hot to use the small stove in the Paratipi.
Although a fire grate would do the same thing.

TR
06-26-2007, 05:21 AM
5x5:

I have made two Nimblewill stoves. I am very happy with them. I made the first out of scrap sheet steel. It's a bit heavy, but is very solid and works great. It draws air into the twigs well and it's fairly easy to keep a good fire going. It also does a great job of holding my Trangia burner, which is the only alcohol stove I have the patience to fool with. A Nimblewill with a Trangia burner for a rainy day backup is a small, lightweight combo.

I'd suggest doing a trial run with scrap sheet steel to get the hang of it, then spring for the titanium. Also, titanium reacts differently than steel when it comes time to cut or bend it. I had much better luck using a dremel tool and a pile of cut off discs than I did trying to use a chisel on titanium. Also, I find the titanium version more flimsy than the steel, so keep that in mind if you intend to use it to cook for more than one person or boil a lot of water.

Bushcraft
06-26-2007, 08:02 AM
Ksnake,

The Esbit stove works well for boiling up some water. Maybe not as fast or as hot as a larger pocket-cooker or hobo-type stoves, but they get the job done for a fraction of the weight and as you know, are very compact. Hard to beat if all you need to do is boil enough water for coffee, oatmeal or a freeze-dried meal.

From one of my scouting trips last year...
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/ARE001/2f831161.jpg

Ed C this past weekend cooking up some grub at 6,800' in the mid 30's...
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/ARE001/Rondy%20Scout/DSC01478.jpg

Gizzmo
06-26-2007, 09:54 AM
I have several Esbit stoves. I guess I have not been impressed by the performance. I always have one with 4 tabs in my pack as a backup. They are very light and easy to stash away.

Ksnake
06-26-2007, 01:39 PM
Thanks Bushcraft, I like the pocket cooker and it is great to have in the truck or a day pack when the extra ounces don't matter. But for UL packpacking, I think burning debris in the Esbit might be the ticket. The extra time it takes to boil 16 oz of water would be acceptable given the weight savings IMO. Will give it a try.

Russ-T
06-28-2007, 08:59 AM
I donít have an accurate scale for measuring things of that weight but one scale read that it was a little less than 1 Ĺ lb with the case and another said it was a little over 16 oz without the case. Also I donít know it there is any differences in sizes over the years. Mine is probably 10? years old. One thing I donít like about it is it takes longer to cool down after you are done with it than a thinner stove but this might be a mute point depending on how fast you eat. Iím looking forward to purchasing and using one of the gasifier stoves and seeing how they compare.